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David_Tepper

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Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« on: July 16, 2016, 01:07:26 PM »
If you replaced the gorse & the railway OB with water and moved the hole to Florida, would people use the dreaded "unfair" word to describe it? With water instead of gorse, if could fit right in at Doral or TPC Sawgrass. ;)
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2016, 01:57:50 PM »
Not sure it's really an 'unfair' hole. 'Great' maybe?


As to switcharound comparisons, getting you're backside spiked by a gorse bush at TPC or have a train suddenly rumble by would be unexpected, but then again I guess you're not likely to meet an alligator on the west coast of Scotland. A few Bears maybe -  (sic - in joke) :) - by the way, are there more acknowledged Bears now that the Boys in Blue are back in the SPL?
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William_G

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2016, 02:03:30 PM »
plus the wind....
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Greg Taylor

Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2016, 04:34:16 PM »
I can only imagine how hard that hole would be in a left to right wind.


I see gorse as effectively water, certain lost ball, only you can't drop laterally.


An utter brute of a hole. Great to watch the pros play it though isn't' it? Did anyone see Bubba slice it OB yesterday?
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2016, 04:54:05 PM »
Quote from: Greg T on July 16, 2016, 04:34:16 PM
I can only imagine how hard that hole would be in a left to right wind.


I see gorse as effectively water, certain lost ball, only you can't drop laterally.


An utter brute of a hole. Great to watch the pros play it though isn't' it? Did anyone see Bubba slice it OB yesterday?


Gorse is nothing like water. In water you don't have to find your ball to take a drop. Gorse are OB pockets. Less width...
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2016, 05:25:41 PM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 16, 2016, 04:54:05 PM



Gorse is nothing like water. In water you don't have to find your ball to take a drop. Gorse are OB pockets. Less width...


and with gorse you don't have to worry about the alligators :D



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Bill_McBride

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2016, 07:14:24 PM »
Thinking back on the 1962 Open when Arnie won, wasn't 11 a par 5?
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Jonathan Mallard

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2016, 07:21:56 PM »
Quote from: Bill_McBride on July 16, 2016, 07:14:24 PM
Thinking back on the 1962 Open when Arnie won, wasn't 11 a par 5?


It was at some point previously. I think I heard them say it was changed to a 4 for the 1997 Open Championship.
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Josh Stevens

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2016, 08:51:31 AM »
Quote from: Bill_McBride on July 16, 2016, 07:14:24 PM
Thinking back on the 1962 Open when Arnie won, wasn't 11 a par 5?

I guess that made Jack Nicklaus's 10 a little less awful
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Philip Caccamise

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Re: Is #11 at Troon the most penal hole in the Open Rota?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2016, 10:48:33 AM »
Statistics back up it being the most penal. More "others" (triple +) than any other hole in the rota.
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