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John Connolly

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William Flynn and shared fairways
« on: July 05, 2016, 09:02:19 PM »
Did Flynn ever design shared fairways?
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Rory Connaughton

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2016, 10:10:57 PM »
I believe that the fairways at 2 & 9 at Lancaster were once combined. Not sure if Flynn was responsible for that presentation or not. 

mike_malone

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 07:19:58 AM »
The parallel routing of 9 and 12 at Rolling Green could allow that.
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Kyle Harris

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 09:07:52 AM »
I believe C-1 and C-2 at Huntingdon Valley may have been shared. (I think the holes are now C-5 and C-6 in the re-routed version recently completed by Andrew Green).
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JNagle

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2016, 01:12:32 PM »
I believe the plan for the 2nd and 9th at Lancaster showed a joined fairway.  Plus the earliest photos show the fairways joined.  With Flynn being there until his death I would think he had something to do with it.  The 9th and 18th greens at the Pepper Pike club were joined with an expansive fair green area.  Not fairway, but a large joined area.  Not in the office until later next week.  Will have to take a look then. 
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Lester George

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 02:13:54 PM »
Yes he did. The 4th, 5th and 6th holes at North Hills are sharing fairways in his drawings.

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2016, 04:49:41 PM »
That's incredible!

Pretty big trees in there now...

John Connolly

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 10:26:27 PM »
Thanks all for commenting. My takeaway is that he used them very little. It seems that shared fairways were not a commonly used feature for most golden age architects.
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mike_malone

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2016, 10:31:01 PM »
Indian Creek could be one fairway throughout.
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Jeffrey Stein

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2016, 12:36:22 AM »
Pocantico Hills, a small estate course, was designed with criss-crossing fairways. 
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Bill_McBride

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2016, 07:40:51 PM »
Thanks all for commenting. My takeaway is that he used them very little. It seems that shared fairways were not a commonly used feature for most golden age architects.

2 and 13 at Mackenzie's Valley Club have been restored to a shared fairway. 

Bill Crane

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Re: William Flynn and shared fairways
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2016, 10:38:59 PM »
I believe the plan for the 2nd and 9th at Lancaster showed a joined fairway.  Plus the earliest photos show the fairways joined.  With Flynn being there until his death I would think he had something to do with it.  The 9th and 18th greens at the Pepper Pike club were joined with an expansive fair green area.  Not fairway, but a large joined area.  Not in the office until later next week.  Will have to take a look then.


Jim:


I know that for many years there was only one cut on most courses, except for greens. When did it become common practice to have true fairways with lower cut grass?


Certainly, Flynn's scheme at Springdale shows the outline of fairways.


My point being, some holes must have had shared fairways to the extent that they were near each other and were all cut at the same length.


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