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archie_struthers

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2016, 07:08:18 AM »
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Great trip itinerary !   Wonderful golf courses.


Weather can be awful so good luck on that one

JWinick

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2016, 07:57:47 AM »



Buyers remorse?   We are not lazy golfers and we have jobs in the US.   It's just not possible to take 10 days off and see the same itinerary.   We are extremely happy to be playing the top six courses in Ireland / Northern Ireland.    If this schedule is too tough for some of you, I understand.    I agree it's a little intense.   But, we may never come back to this country again.    So, why would I miss out on some amazing golf courses because I'm a little tired?


I do appreciate the advice though, and you all have given some good ideas (places to go out, etc.).   


As for the driving, we rented an SUV and we will split up the driving.   The other three will probably be sleeping.   It will be great!   flight leaves in 10 hours.

What is the purpose of this thread?   The trip is set and even if it wasn't, it doesn't seem that advice is going to change anything. 


I hope that you have fun on your trip, but I don't see the purpose of this thread.


Michael:


I wondered the same thing and questioned whether it even made sense to respond (with my somewhat harsh sounding post).


If a similar post ("advice for a trip to") comes up in the future, hopefully it will be presented well in advance of the planned trip.


Guys-My guess is that there may be some buyer's remorse by the OP which he was hoping to quell. Not surprisingly the sentiment went in the opposite direction.

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2016, 08:15:36 AM »
Enjoy it - You have six wonderful golf courses there.

Charles Lund

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2016, 12:30:04 PM »
Best wishes.

Perhaps you would consider adding to this thread some of your real time experiences.

I started a thread a few months ago on Self Directed Golf Travel.  It would be helpul to hear of some of your experiences with the itinerary. The courses you are playing have been extensively reviewed and are among the best in the world.

Happy and safe travels.

Charles Lund

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2016, 12:32:35 PM »
Is there such a thing as rain socks?

Mark Bourgeois

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JWinick

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2016, 12:56:00 PM »

I essentially put it together.    It seems pretty straightforward, you email the courses and get tee times.    I think you may need a tour company in Scotland, but it's fun doing it yourself too.  Plus, I usually want to do more than what an official tour does (and move at a faster pace).

Best wishes.

Perhaps you would consider adding to this thread some of your real time experiences.

I started a thread a few months ago on Self Directed Golf Travel.  It would be helpul to hear of some of your experiences with the itinerary. The courses you are playing have been extensively reviewed and are among the best in the world.

Happy and safe travels.

Charles Lund


Sean_A

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2016, 02:02:04 PM »
Is there such a thing as rain socks?

http://www.sealskinz.com/US/socks/mid-weight-mid-length-sock-with-hydrostop


Bourgeois...do you ever provide a link to purchase something which doesn't require a second mortgage?  :D


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Thomas Dai

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2016, 02:31:05 PM »
Slight change of tack -


- given the relatively mild Irish climate (ie unlike say northern/eastern Scotland can be) with not much much risk of frost/snow, that links courses are generally pretty firm and free draining and that prices to both play golf and for accommodation are lower off-season would it be a reasonable alternative approach to make a golf trip to Ireland during the Nov-March period?


How much more rainy is Ireland in the winter than during the rest of the year and are there any areas of the country that are usually less rainy than others? And if it does rain like preverbial cats-n-dogs, well put on the Goretex and play or treat the day like a holiday and go somewhere to enjoy the craic.


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Mark Bourgeois

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2016, 02:45:10 PM »

 If this schedule is too tough for some of you, I understand.    I agree it's a little intense. 

Actually this schedule falls far short of intense from a golf perspective, particularly considering the long days this time of year. You've chosen to trade golf time for driving time so that you can see Golf Digest's top six. Nothing wrong with that and more power to you. As you say, you may never return.

Sean, here you go, $250 in free running clothes -- if you dare!  :-*
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Sean_A

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2016, 04:42:00 PM »
I'm with Mark, the golf per day ratio isn't intense at all.  Its all the drive time taking away from possibly more golf or something else which is surprising given the many high quality options that can be played.  To each is own though...its J Winick's holiday, time and money so why not do as he pleases?


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Jay Mickle

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2016, 04:57:58 PM »
You will have a great time. Last year I did 281 holes in 10 days, all of yours plus a few.
If you are staying over in Newcastle to play RCD I highly recommend the Cherry Hill Lodge B&B at the base of Slieve Donnard. You won't find a better view if the mountain,  better accommodations or better hosts that Patricia and John.
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Andy Shulman

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2016, 10:36:18 AM »
I'll be interested to get a post-trip report, especially with regard to tomorrow's 3 1/2 hour drive from Waterville to Lahinch.  That sounds like an absolute killer, no matter what your age or intelligence level.

Eric Smith

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2016, 10:50:57 AM »
Have a blast, Jon!

I'd post my itinerary for England and Scotland but the roast would be brutal. As one friend said when he saw it, "it appears the purpose of your trip is DRIVING."  ;D

JWinick

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #65 on: July 05, 2016, 10:35:47 PM »

Andy,


Actually it was not that terrible.   Given how much we loved Waterville, we couldn't imagine doing it any differently, especially since we could not play Ballybunion on a weekend.   


We were the first group off at Waterville.   We played a little slow and I had to rush everyone into the BMW SUV afterwards.   We were in bad shape as we didn't leave until about 12:30.   The trick in making the drive is to take the Tarbert Killimer car ferry, which cuts about 45 minutes from the trip.    My friends will admit that I am a talented fast and perhaps reckless driver.   We must have made up 20 minutes or so so that we could just make the ferry (it leaves every 30 minutes).   


We teed off at Lahinch at 5:10 and finished around 9:30 / 9:45.  At one point, we were on pace to finish well after 10:30, but I got the group to get moving again. 


Did I mention that we drove back to Dublin after Lahinch, and after a long dinner afterwards with Patrick Glynn?   We got in at 2:00 AM, but fortunately we had a tee time at Potmarnock at 2, so we had time to recover.


I'll give a report with pictures and rankings later...

I'll be interested to get a post-trip report, especially with regard to tomorrow's 3 1/2 hour drive from Waterville to Lahinch.  That sounds like an absolute killer, no matter what your age or intelligence level.

John Crowley

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2016, 11:35:09 PM »
Since this thread seems to have run its inevitable course, I'll present our upcoming Ireland itinerary for commentary. Most of the same courses, but we will have 17 days to undertake the trip:


Aug. 26: Arrive Dublin
Aug. 27: Tour Dublin
Aug. 28: RCD, 1:30 p.m. 18 holes
Aug. 29: Tour Belfast
Aug. 30: Royal Portrush Dunluce, 9:30 a.m. 18 holes
Aug. 31: Travel, sightsee
Sept. 1:  Travel, sightsee
Sept. 2:  Arrive Belmullet for BUDA cup
Sept. 3:  Carne, 27 holes
Sept. 4:  Carne, 27 holes
Sept. 5:  Enniscrone, 27 holes
Sept. 6:  Travel, sightsee
Sept. 7:  Lahinch, noon, 18 holes
Sept. 8:  Ballybunion, 12:12 p.m., 18 holes
Sept. 9:  Travel
Sept. 10: Depart Dublin


I'm not under any illusion that the driving will be easy, but I hope we've built in enough time to make it bearable.


Rick,
RCD Should be played twice. I would forego a tour of Belfast to play again knowing what lays beyond some of those blind tee shots.
The Dunluce also is worth a second play but less so than RCD.
Cheers,
John


Charles Lund

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2016, 11:41:08 PM »
Thanks to JWinick for posting about early part of trip.   Glad you arrived back to Dublin in one piece.

Look forward to more postings.

Oh, to be young again!

Charles Lund

Thomas Dai

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2016, 03:25:07 AM »

Aug. 26: Arrive Dublin
Aug. 27: Tour Dublin
Aug. 28: RCD, 1:30 p.m. 18 holes
Aug. 29: Tour Belfast
Aug. 30: Royal Portrush Dunluce, 9:30 a.m. 18 holes
Aug. 31: Travel, sightsee
Sept. 1:  Travel, sightsee
Sept. 2:  Arrive Belmullet for BUDA cup
Sept. 3:  Carne, 27 holes
Sept. 4:  Carne, 27 holes
Sept. 5:  Enniscrone, 27 holes
Sept. 6:  Travel, sightsee
Sept. 7:  Lahinch, noon, 18 holes
Sept. 8:  Ballybunion, 12:12 p.m., 18 holes
Sept. 9:  Travel
Sept. 10: Depart Dublin


No Mulranny for golf before Buda/Carne then?


And the likes of Westport, the cilffs on Achill Island, Clew Bay, and views of Croagh Patrick for sightseeing?

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Rick Shefchik

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #69 on: July 06, 2016, 02:37:05 PM »
Thomas, I think we will play Mulranny when we arrive on Friday, depending on how fresh we're feeling.

As for Westport, the cliffs on Achill Island, Clew Bay, and views of Croagh Patrick, that's why we left as much open time as we did. I'll research all of those possibilities, and see where the roads take us.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #70 on: July 06, 2016, 03:01:42 PM »
Thomas, I think we will play Mulranny when we arrive on Friday, depending on how fresh we're feeling.
As for Westport, the cilffs on Achill Island, Clew Bay, and views of Croagh Patrick, that's why we left as much open time as we did. I'll research all of those possibilities, and see where the roads take us.
Rick, Look forward to seeing you there. We're planning to be in Mulranny on the Thurs afternoon then moving on to Carne after some more Mulranny golf on the Fri.
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Mark Bourgeois

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #71 on: July 06, 2016, 04:19:51 PM »

Andy,


Actually it was not that terrible.   Given how much we loved Waterville, we couldn't imagine doing it any differently, especially since we could not play Ballybunion on a weekend.   



Here is Golf Digest's top 6 -- sounds like Waterville is ranked too low:
1.       Royal County Down
2.       Portmarnock Golf Club (Old)
3.       Royal Portrush Golf Club
4.       Lahinch Golf Club
5.       Waterville Golf Links
6.       Ballybunion Golf Club (The Old Course)
Also, if you were the first group off at Waterville I'm guessing the round took more than 5 hours? Any flaws in the routing or design or conditioning that slowed everyone down?
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JWinick

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2016, 09:11:04 PM »

Well, our group was a little slow at times because we were taking a lot of pictures and we lost our fair share of balls!    There was no issues with the Waterville routing in that regard.   


Andy,


Actually it was not that terrible.   Given how much we loved Waterville, we couldn't imagine doing it any differently, especially since we could not play Ballybunion on a weekend.   



Here is Golf Digest's top 6 -- sounds like Waterville is ranked too low:
1.       Royal County Down
2.       Portmarnock Golf Club (Old)
3.       Royal Portrush Golf Club
4.       Lahinch Golf Club
5.       Waterville Golf Links
6.       Ballybunion Golf Club (The Old Course)
Also, if you were the first group off at Waterville I'm guessing the round took more than 5 hours? Any flaws in the routing or design or conditioning that slowed everyone down?

Howard Riefs

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2016, 12:13:51 PM »
Since this thread seems to have run its inevitable course, I'll present our upcoming Ireland itinerary for commentary. Most of the same courses, but we will have 17 days to undertake the trip:


Aug. 26: Arrive Dublin
Aug. 27: Tour Dublin
Aug. 28: RCD, 1:30 p.m. 18 holes
Aug. 29: Tour Belfast
Aug. 30: Royal Portrush Dunluce, 9:30 a.m. 18 holes
Aug. 31: Travel, sightsee
Sept. 1:  Travel, sightsee
Sept. 2:  Arrive Belmullet for BUDA cup
Sept. 3:  Carne, 27 holes
Sept. 4:  Carne, 27 holes
Sept. 5:  Enniscrone, 27 holes
Sept. 6:  Travel, sightsee
Sept. 7:  Lahinch, noon, 18 holes
Sept. 8:  Ballybunion, 12:12 p.m., 18 holes
Sept. 9:  Travel
Sept. 10: Depart Dublin


I'm not under any illusion that the driving will be easy, but I hope we've built in enough time to make it bearable.




Rick -


How was your marathon Ireland/N. Ireland trip?

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Bill Satterfield

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Re: Ireland / Northern Ireland Trip
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2016, 11:57:18 AM »
When I see posts like this I realize just how nuts I really am with the itineraries I pull together for a golf trip.  That being said, I love it that way!  I always want to play as much of the best courses possible when I go to an area.  The 19th hole is meaningless to me, especially since I don't drink so my buddy and I didn't spend any time in the pubs while in Ireland in September.  We actually stopped into two pubs with the intention of grabbing something to eat and take in the experience I had heard so much about, but we didn't love the atmosphere and went to eat elsewhere instead.  Maybe if I was a drinker I would appreciate that scene better, but we still had exposure to the locals while staying at B&B's, and interacting with people at the courses, talking with people at eating establishments, etc.  Here is the itinerary I just did in September:


Day 1:  Arrive in Dublin on the red eye at 8:15 AM.  Pick up rental car, change clothes, and grab some food.  12:00 tee time at The K Club.  Drive 3+ hours to the southern tip of Ireland.  Fell asleep about 10 seconds after getting in bed after being up for over 24 hours straight.
Day 2:  Play Old Head in the AM, drive 3+ hours, play Waterville in the PM.  Drive nearly 6 hours straight north.
Day 3:  Play County Sligo in the AM, drive just over an hour west, play Enniscrone in the PM.  Drive another hour west.
Day 4:  Play all 27 holes at Carne in the AM.  Drive 5 hours back east and into Northern Ireland.
Day 5:  Go to church in the AM and play Royal County Down in the PM.  Drive an hour south back into the Republic of Ireland.
Day 6:  Play County Louth in the AM, drive 2+ hours to the northern tip of N. Ireland, play Royal Portrush in the PM.  Drive nearly 6 hours to the SW portion of Ireland.
Day 7:  Play Ballybunion (Old) in the AM, drive 2 hours north, play Trump Doonbeg in the PM.  Drive back 2 hours to the south.
Day 8:  Play Tralee in the AM where the rain never let up for one second.  Shower in the locker room and get full feeling back into all our fingers and toes.  Drive 2.5 hours north and play Lahinch in the PM.  Drive 4 hours east back towards Dublin.
Day 9:  Play Portmarnock in the AM, drive 1.5 hours south, play The European Club in the PM.  Get back to Dublin in time to hit a souvenir shop to take gifts back to my wife and seven kids.  Eat kabobs for the third time on the trip.
Day 10:  Fly home


I would have loved to build the itinerary with a more efficient driving schedule, but it was kind of a last minute trip when I found round trip tickets to Dublin from my hometown regional airport of Pocatello, ID for just $585.  It was just a 3 day sale so we had to jump on the opportunity.  Three days later those same flights were selling for $2,250 round trip.  On Delta's website, flights in April from Pocatello to Dublin range from $1,200 - $3,500 roundtrip.  Normally I fly out of Salt Lake City which cuts the flight cost a ton, but even from SLC it will generally be over $1,000 to fly roundtrip to Dublin.  Since it was a trip that was pulled together without a lot of lead time, we had to schedule tee times on the days and times the courses could squeeze us into their already jam packed tee sheets.  But like I said earlier, I have such a passion for getting to the best courses that we were willing to drive as much as necessary.  Plus, it gave us a great chance to see the countryside and just chat about life and golf travelling course to course.  Over the course of the trip we were rained on steadily for one round (Tralee), sprinkled off and on during two rounds (County Sligo and RCD), played in a fog with 100 yard visibility and no wind once (Old Head), played in high winds twice (Carne and The European Club), and then had mostly overcast days with stretches of sunshine and light winds the other rounds.


Nuts?  Probably.  Worth it?  Without question.

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