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Mike_Young

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Bruce Katona

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2016, 11:00:11 AM »
I was watching her face as she garbled the English language......perhaps a bit of Botox....the corners of the mouth really didn't move much.

Mike_Young

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 11:00:44 AM »
Ted Bishop got a raw deal.... :) :)   
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ward peyronnin

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2016, 08:58:20 PM »
Doesnt botox violate rule 14
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Bruce Katona

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2016, 09:18:22 PM »
Ward:

Touche!

Mike_Young

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2016, 09:50:57 PM »
Do you notice how uncomfortable people are with this....press is not touching it....so so many people who work in the business are intimidated by the USGA and saying anything against them.  I know a person who interviewed MD re the long putter a couple years ago and and did not agree on decision;  relationship hasn't been the same with USGA since..
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Tom ORourke

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2016, 09:00:57 AM »
Much of her speech was pre-written and she could not get that done. What I find even worse than that was she referred to Scott Piercy twice and both times called him Scott PERCY. If you run the US Open, and your second place finisher has won 3 times on tour, don't you think you could get his name right?  I keep waiting for some kind of flu/sunstroke/vertigo  excuse but I guess they are going to ignore it.

Ed Brzezowski

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2016, 09:39:20 AM »
Anyone know where Jim Furyk went to for the awards?  his chair was empty.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 09:44:08 AM »
We all saw it - the blogosphere's been working overtime - there ought to be a point where indignation gets replaced by compassion.
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Ronald Montesano

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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2016, 06:26:56 PM »
Ronald,


pretty damning story for the USGA. How can they treat the marker like that? It seems to me that the officials were so engrossed with their own importance that they forgot many of the basics when dealing with such a situation.


Jon

Mike_Young

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2016, 07:44:48 PM »
We all saw it - the blogosphere's been working overtime - there ought to be a point where indignation gets replaced by compassion.

Jim,
Agree but it is a position where she should have been replaced the next day...just like Ted.  And compassion should have been shown and given DJ back his penalty stroke.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2016, 09:11:03 PM »
Ronald,


pretty damning story for the USGA. How can they treat the marker like that? It seems to me that the officials were so engrossed with their own importance that they forgot many of the basics when dealing with such a situation.


Jon


There seems to be a belief among tour players, a certain entitlement, to "their" officials. They seem to expect the same faces week in and out. Does the PGA Tour provide officials at the Masters? at the PGA? I don't know and wonder.


That said, the USGA needed to circle the wagons, back its walking official, and let things play out. No competitor would have begrudged Dustin his opinion, even if the stroke had been critical.


One would think that the USGA would invite a tour official to walk with each group (maybe it costs too much money) as a second set of eyes, as an observer only.
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Rob Marshall

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2016, 09:42:04 PM »
We all saw it - the blogosphere's been working overtime - there ought to be a point where indignation gets replaced by compassion.

Jim,
Agree but it is a position where she should have been replaced the next day...just like Ted.  And compassion should have been shown and given DJ back his penalty stroke.


I read on another site that this happens to people when the they are not used to speaking using a PA system. There is a delay of some sort that causes confusion to the speaker.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2016, 08:53:20 AM »

We all saw it - the blogosphere's been working overtime - there ought to be a point where indignation gets replaced by compassion.


Jim,
Agree but it is a position where she should have been replaced the next day...just like Ted.  And compassion should have been shown and given DJ back his penalty stroke.



Apples and oranges, or maybe more like this,  
but I missed the part where she tweeted "Yours vs. His? Lil Girl", and "Sounds like a little school girl squealing during recess. C'MON MAN!".
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Mike_Young

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2016, 10:48:22 AM »
Jim,
It's not that I don't have empathy for Murphy or anyone else with such an issue.  The problem is that as you get closer and closer to the top there is less and less room for tolerance of mistakes without someone taking the fall.  The enitre mess is much worse than Ted Bishop.  I promise you someone would have schooled her well before hand on PA systems and their nuances so that doesn't fly either.  USGA is a very flawed organization presently.

As for all the stuff about "yours vs. his" "lil girl" etc....my new favorite is when Scott Brown says Elizabeth Warren " take a DNA test Pocohontas"   love it...
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 12:21:10 PM »
My "new favorite" thing is watching all the bigots, like Brown, come out of the woodwork. 


All Ted Bishop had to do was make a real apology and he'd have remained at his job - and Ted Bishop knows that.                             
His tell-all book should be an interesting read.
 
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 03:09:02 PM »
Seems like with all the poop coming out of the mouths of our current crop of politicians, Ted could find a fine career there.

Losing your job for calling a player a little girl?  That's nothing compared to the crap HRC and Trump are getting away with...

Ronald Montesano

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Sean_A

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2016, 09:15:12 AM »
Jim,
It's not that I don't have empathy for Murphy or anyone else with such an issue.  The problem is that as you get closer and closer to the top there is less and less room for tolerance of mistakes without someone taking the fall.  The enitre mess is much worse than Ted Bishop.  I promise you someone would have schooled her well before hand on PA systems and their nuances so that doesn't fly either.  USGA is a very flawed organization presently.

As for all the stuff about "yours vs. his" "lil girl" etc....my new favorite is when Scott Brown says Elizabeth Warren " take a DNA test Pocohontas"   love it...


Jeepers...it was a bad speech...one of thousands.  Let it go.


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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2016, 11:09:54 AM »
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2016, 12:06:42 PM »
From the article:

"According to a USGA spokesperson, more than 10,000 letters, emails, texts and phone calls were sent or made to the association within three days of Johnson’s victory, some of them nasty and even threatening."

To paraphrase the title of this thread, that "Sort of sums up the USA experience".

Pathetic.  :P
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Mike_Young

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2016, 08:49:11 PM »
Kudos to Golf.Com for not letting this thing go quietly into that dark night of history:


http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/shane-lowry-us-open-penalty-fiasco-affected-my-final-round


http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/mike-davis-admits-problem-usgas-moving-ball-rule


http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/jordan-spieth-us-open-ruling-i-wouldnt-have-hit-another-shot

I don't think they will since Fox took the contract form them and NBC...
The fun part will be when the tour finally speaks....come on..the US Open is what it is because of the pros.  The USGA got an e4xtra 60 mill a year with the new contract and only upped the purse about 1 mill....don't think that sits too well with all the shenanigans going on...I hope GC stays on their butt....
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Anthony Butler

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2016, 10:22:20 AM »
Ronald,


pretty damning story for the USGA. How can they treat the marker like that? It seems to me that the officials were so engrossed with their own importance that they forgot many of the basics when dealing with such a situation.


Jon


There seems to be a belief among tour players, a certain entitlement, to "their" officials. They seem to expect the same faces week in and out. Does the PGA Tour provide officials at the Masters? at the PGA? I don't know and wonder.

One would think that the USGA would invite a tour official to walk with each group (maybe it costs too much money) as a second set of eyes, as an observer only.

The USGA does, however, have officials working the Masters.. in fact, the very same people who brought you Tiger Woods' "Dropgate" were USGA officials... 

That particular clusterf__k was the handiwork of Fred Ridley, past president of the USGA.

A man who, in the eyes of one of my colleagues who had dealings with him, 'Had the same ability to understand new concepts as someone in a special ed program, combined with a belief in his own opinions you would ordinarily find in a Warren Buffett or Steve Jobs."

As the writer Charles Bukowski said; "The problem with the world is the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid people are full of confidence."
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Mike_Young

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Re: Sort of sums up the USGA experience
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2016, 10:31:15 AM »

The USGA does, however, have officials working the Masters.. in fact, the very same people who brought you Tiger Woods' "Dropgate" were USGA officials... 

That particular clusterf__k was the handiwork of Fred Ridley, past president of the USGA.

A man who, in the eyes of one of my colleagues who had dealings with him, 'Had the same ability to understand new concepts as someone in a special ed program, combined with a belief in his own opinions you would ordinarily find in a Warren Buffett or Steve Jobs."

As the writer Charles Bukowski said; "The problem with the world is the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid people are full of confidence."

I have to give Murphy some credit in that supposedly she dropped a few of the rules officials that had scored under 95 on test and the last few regimes was letting them remain...
But this unknown quote sort of sums them up for me:  "Nothing as dangerous as mediocrity dressed up as sincerity"   ;D ;D
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