We are witnessing the stupidest decision I've ever seen in sports

[Terry Lavin]

Did the ball strike the putter when it fell back? The mic in the indicates that it did.

Didn't hear that. But Johnson would KNOW that I would think.

I for one do not trust DJ in this.  His character is not exactly beyond reproach - in more ways than one.

If your tongue is not in cheek, I can introduce you to Jeff Hall. You might fit in!

[Dean Stokes]

I think the worse ruling was his line of sight debacle! Drop out of a shitty lie into a perfect lie where the tv tower was still clearly in line of sight as the ball flew straight over it! Now that's BS!

[Joe Hancock]

Did the ball strike the putter when it fell back? The mic in the indicates that it did.

Didn't hear that. But Johnson would KNOW that I would think.

I for one do not trust DJ in this.  His character is not exactly beyond reproach - in more ways than one.

Which is even further reaching than the USGA.

Oh, cmon. He's had drug suspensions and he sneaks around with other players' wives.  He ain't no choir boy.

Make sure you've identified all participants with similar known infractions then. And don't forget to go back in history to run some of golfs' most beloved through your morals and ethics test.

[Ryan Coles]

He'll be honorary starter in the masters. Every cloud.....

[Phil McDade]

I think the worse ruling was his line of sight debacle! Drop out of a shitty lie into a perfect lie where the tv tower was still clearly in line of sight as the ball flew straight over it! Now that's BS!

I wondered about that, too. Didn't Els get a similar line-of-sight relief ruling in 1994 that was later viewed as a bad ruling?

[Dean Stokes]

I think the worse ruling was his line of sight debacle! Drop out of a shitty lie into a perfect lie where the tv tower was still clearly in line of sight as the ball flew straight over it! Now that's BS!

I wondered about that, too. Didn't Els get a similar line-of-sight relief ruling in 1994 that was later viewed as a bad ruling?

i was under the impression that if you took relief it had to be "total" relief. This was a case of getting a good lie to advance the ball. I blame the referee.

[Terry Lavin]

Did the ball strike the putter when it fell back? The mic in the indicates that it did.

Didn't hear that. But Johnson would KNOW that I would think.

I for one do not trust DJ in this.  His character is not exactly beyond reproach - in more ways than one.

Just because he's dim, doesn't mean he's dihonourable.

You're right, Sven. The fact that he does dishonorable things is what makes him dishonorable.

Looks like the sinner will be a winner.

[Phil McDade]

I think the worse ruling was his line of sight debacle! Drop out of a shitty lie into a perfect lie where the tv tower was still clearly in line of sight as the ball flew straight over it! Now that's BS!

I wondered about that, too. Didn't Els get a similar line-of-sight relief ruling in 1994 that was later viewed as a bad ruling?

i was under the impression that if you took relief it had to be "total" relief. This was a case of getting a good lie to advance the ball. I blame the referee.

That was my impression as well, Dean.

[BCowan]

Did the ball strike the putter when it fell back? The mic in the indicates that it did.

Didn't hear that. But Johnson would KNOW that I would think.

I for one do not trust DJ in this.  His character is not exactly beyond reproach - in more ways than one.

Which is even further reaching than the USGA.

Oh, cmon. He's had drug suspensions and he sneaks around with other players' wives.  He ain't no choir boy.

Make sure you've identified all participants with similar known infractions then. And don't forget to go back in history to run some of golfs' most beloved through your morals and ethics test.

U can say that again.  DJ isn't smart enough to put on an act

[jeffwarne]

I think the worse ruling was his line of sight debacle! Drop out of a shitty lie into a perfect lie where the tv tower was still clearly in line of sight as the ball flew straight over it! Now that's BS!

I wondered about that, too. Didn't Els get a similar line-of-sight relief ruling in 1994 that was later viewed as a bad ruling?

Phil,
The Els TV crane was ruled a temporary immoveable obstruction-and he was given relief- when it was in fact moveable.


The DJ ruling on 10 from the tower was correctly applied

[John Kavanaugh]

If they wait long enough he just might sign an incorrect scorecard.

[Dean Stokes]

I think the worse ruling was his line of sight debacle! Drop out of a shitty lie into a perfect lie where the tv tower was still clearly in line of sight as the ball flew straight over it! Now that's BS!

I wondered about that, too. Didn't Els get a similar line-of-sight relief ruling in 1994 that was later viewed as a bad ruling?

Phil,
The Els TV crane was ruled a temporary immoveable obstruction-and he was given relief- when it was in fact moveable.


The DJ ruling on 10 from the tower was correctly applied

even if no relief was taken except from a bad lie Jeff? Just wondering.

[Sven Nilsen]

Did the ball strike the putter when it fell back? The mic in the indicates that it did.

Didn't hear that. But Johnson would KNOW that I would think.

I for one do not trust DJ in this.  His character is not exactly beyond reproach - in more ways than one.

Just because he's dim, doesn't mean he's dihonourable.

You're right, Sven. The fact that he does dishonorable things is what makes him dishonorable.

Time for the Otter speech.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYb_anBMus

[Joe Hancock]

He'll be honorary starter in the masters. Every cloud.....

Arnie was not tapping his friends' wives.  If you don't understand the difference, I feel for you.

Not sure why you are going so sideways here...

What you know, or think you know about any of these guys doesn't matter concerning todays situation. The fact that the USGA altered the tenor, strategy and discussion during the tournament in such a negative way is the issue. They're damned lucky they didn't get further screwed by a faltering DJ. He persevered, whether you like the guy or not.

[Terry Lavin]

Took you that long - and that's all you came up with?

Sanctimony knows skanktimony.

[Sven Nilsen]

Took you that long - and that's all you came up with?

i've never seen him try to be an internet tough guy, he's good in my book.

[jeffwarne]

 They're damned lucky they didn't get further screwed by a faltering DJ. He persevered, whether you like the guy or not.

case closed-damn lucky


Love to be fly on the wall when he tells the USGA spineless morons to do whatever they want...

[Joe Hancock]

He'll be honorary starter in the masters. Every cloud.....

Arnie was not tapping his friends' wives.  If you don't understand the difference, I feel for you.

Not sure why you are going so sideways here...

What you know, or think you know about any of these guys doesn't matter concerning todays situation. The fact that the USGA altered the tenor, strategy and discussion during the tournament in such a negative way is the issue. They're damned lucky they didn't get further screwed by a faltering DJ. He persevered, whether you like the guy or not.

I was just reacting to the notion that he can be presumed honest.  Lowry took it like a man. He tried to weasel out.

If any player is presumed to be dishonest, they shouldn't be in the field. I think they all start out presumed to be honest, as they should be.

[Don Hyslop]

Do they have to inform him if there is a penalty before he signs his scorecard?

[Joe Hancock]

Do they have to inform him if there is a penalty before he signs his scorecard?

I'm pondering what a fiasco it would be if DJ went ahead and signed before the USGA gives him a final decision. What if....?

And by going ahead and penalizing DJ, the USGA make the discussion about DJ's integrity instead of their own. Brilliant.

[Sven Nilsen]

Took you that long - and that's all you came up with?

i've never seen him try to be an internet tough guy, he's good in my book.

You mean like a guy who calls other posters names on the Internet?  Look in the mirror.

Did i call anyone a name?  If i recall, it was you calling out people you've never met for being dishonourable.

[Mike Hendren]

Only on GCA does a guy get screwed by the USGA and come out smelling like an adulterer. 

Bogey

[Carl Rogers]

The USGA needs to put in place a definitive time limit in place to overturn the ruling at the time. ... like before hitting the tee shot on the next hole.  ............. And then leave the ruling alone!

[Mike Hendren]

I'm debating whether to post a pic of my surprised face, having learned the USGA imposed the one-stroke penalty.

A total lack of testicular fortitude by the blazers.

A farce.

[Sven Nilsen]

Internet tough guy?  Not name calling?

You made it personal. Not me.

This was your doing. Not mine. 

I said nothing about you, which is basically the norm...

That purple skin is pretty thin.