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Niall C

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Re: Did Willie Park Sr. design Gullane?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2015, 10:21:34 AM »
Thanks Tony, I tried to find that clipping last night without success, such is my filing system ! I'd actually forgotten that McCulloch took the main part of the credit but I did recall that BHB was involved. Other comments;


Sleepers - they were pretty standard by this time and indeed it was in the early 1900's when I think they started to be phased out with the move towards a more natural softer look as opposed to a the more structural look of sleepers and stone walls. Reg Beale of Carters was one of the first I've seen to advocate removing sleepers.


Railways - your mention of railways reminds me that Tommy Mac listed the GNSR as one of his clients and it was the GNSR who developed the Cruden Bay course in the mid to late 1890's. From what I've seen from the records and contemporary reports there's no mention of BHB or his company being involved. That's not to say he wasn't or that GNSR were even a client at that time but I thought it interesting that there was no mention at a time when the board seemed to be open to suggestions from all comers.


Mapping - the plans are basic routing maps similar to others of the time produced by surveyors and engineers. The purpose was to plot accurately positioning of tee and greens with what appears to be OS sheets as the basis of the maps. What's interesting about them, beyond the course routings, is that they appear to be based on 3 different editions of the OS map for the area, but that the overlay routings appear to be done in a similar/same hand. I would assume therefore that these are the plans mentioned in Mike's snippet of BHB presenting plans to the club in 1910.


Niall

Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Did Willie Park Sr. design Gullane?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2015, 10:22:33 AM »
Bob at North Berwick he was Captain of the Tantallon Club from 1896-8, it is possible he also at some point was Captain of the North Berwick Club. Immediately prior to that he had been Captain at Hoylake in 1895.  The two clubs have played against each other since 1881, often referred to as the first international matches.  Both clubs were influential in Amateur Golf and again it seems more than coincidence he was involved in both.

http://www.tantallongolfclub.co.uk/page.aspx?pid=13976
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MCirba

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Re: Did Willie Park Sr. design Gullane?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2015, 03:11:20 PM »
It appears Willie Park Jr. wasn't much one for blueprints or drawings as a design tool.   I suspect he learned to design from the Old School who seemed to prefer eyeballing the landscape.   This snippet from an article in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle after his death gives some insight;

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MCirba

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Re: Did Willie Park Sr. design Gullane?
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2015, 10:35:18 AM »
I came across this quote today from a 1890s essay by Mr. John Geddie, titled "A Holy Land of Golf".

On Gullane Links a man envies none, and has only pity to spare for the rest of the world.
"Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent" - Calvin Coolidge

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