What great holes from the "Goden Age"

[Patrick_Mucci]

Elevated blind longish approach for most to a green sloping severely front to back.   Great hole but extremely difficult.  Nearly impossible to hold the green on the approach and it's the first hole to boot.






The fairway is elevated, not the green, which sits well below the DZ.

The DZ is also below the tee, helping to make the hole play shorter than the yardage.

With a fall away green, That's why you don't fly it to the hole and that's why the hole plays shorter than the 423/441 yardage.

Hardly a "longish" or "blind" approach.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Mike,


Surprising that there's been no duplication as it seems that it's a perfect hole to use when transitioning elevation changes.


Jeff,


Are you referencing the severity of the sloping green or the hole in general ?

[Matt Bielawa]

7 and 11 at Shinnecock wouldn't be built today, or 10 for that matter.
Modern versions might be but they would be neutered due to "pinnable area" and fairness

I was thinking of #12 at Shinnecock.  Crossing a public road would never happen these days.  Obviously the road and traffic were different back then.


I wonder whether #18's at Olympic and Inverness would be built today.  Not because of the "architecture" per se, but because of the length.

[Patrick_Mucci]

7 and 11 at Shinnecock wouldn't be built today, or 10 for that matter.
Modern versions might be but they would be neutered due to "pinnable area" and fairness

I was thinking of #12 at Shinnecock.  Crossing a public road would never happen these days.  Obviously the road and traffic were different back then.

What about crossing the same road on # 13 ?

Or, would large earthen berms like at # 8 and # 11 at NGLA be allowed ?

I wonder whether #18's at Olympic and Inverness would be built today.  Not because of the "architecture" per se, but because of the length.

[Kirk Gill]

Are modern courses built on properties as small as that used for Merion East?


Would a modern course have a green like the 12th at GCGC? Or anything like the "pimple" on the original 18th at Pine Valley?


I think having....protuberances in greens is something that isn't really done any more, and the dreaded word "unfairness" might be the culprit.