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Brent Hutto

Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2015, 06:10:05 PM »
Kyle,

Please, give me a break. Watch those poor wretches on Tour marking out their drop area with tees, then dropping and dropping again then placing. Or asking people where a ball crossed the hazard. Or god forbid walking back 200 yards to the tee when they can't find a ball. They are not having fun as far as I can see.

Of the many types of people golf appeals to, one type is the person who just love, love, loves all sorts of legalistic angels on the head of a pin debates and elaborate rituals of taking exactly the correct drop or determining who does or doesn't get relief from which obscure situation. Good on 'em, they can really yuck it up if they like that kind of thing.

Another type is the person who likes to hit it, find it, hit it again and see how quickly they can get it in the hole. I don't see any use for fluffing my lie and in fact I routinely ignore situations where I may well be "entitled" to "free" relief. All that nonsense is to me a distraction from the simple joy of knocking the ball through the air a couple times then rolling it in the hole.

My favorite form of golf (not in keeping with the Rules, mind you) is what I used to play with a certain group of guys. We called it Match Play Madness. The only Rule was you don't touch the ball from the time you tee it up until you hole it out. If you can't find your ball or finish the hole without touching the ball then you forfeit the hole. Otherwise just keep playing. No order-of-play Honors. No drops. No marking, cleaning, penalty strokes. Just try to hit the ball fewer times than your opponent.

The further the Rules of Golf evolved from that simple starting point, the more they moved the game away from what the widest range of people would consider fun. It's no surprise that millions of golfers have played the game by some subset of the Rules. Otherwise, the game would have died out long ago under the weight of its own accumulated pomposity.

Kyle Harris

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2015, 06:18:18 PM »
Brent,

You contradict yourself by using an example of dropping and re-dropping and then explaining that some like the simple joy of hit it, find it, hit it again.

You see that, right?

If you enjoy the simple joy of hit it and find it... then play the tees or from a portion of the course where losing it isn't going to happen, or better yet, vote with your wallet.

For what it's worth, I am trying very hard to play only by three rules:

1. Play the course as I find it
2. Don't touch the ball until it's in the hole
3. If I must touch the ball before it's in the hole, play it from the same spot as my last shot and add a stroke.

In doing so, mind you, I am still well within a USGA-conforming game. We all too often fail to recognize the rules are actually quite simple and situations such as Water Hazards, GUR, and the like have OPTIONS. There is no compulsion to drop along a hazard line, or determine where a ball went in, if we so choose.

The problems all seem to start when golfers who would normally shoot 110 try to bend things so they shoot.... 100?

As for your matches:

Things like honors only apply to formalized Medal or Match Play and in match play there is no compulsion to force a player to re-tee if he bats out of turn. Your match has chosen to not be compelled. You're still following the rules. You may concede a hole at anytime. So, you're still playing by the rules.

Just because you're declining options granted in the rules doesn't mean you're breaking them - so by all means, play away.
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noonan

Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2015, 06:34:36 PM »
Jerry,

There is the underlying principle that I cannot grasp or begin to understand.

Playing by the rules is fun. Playing the ball down and embracing that sporting element is fun. Yes, even for recreational golf. Golf is the only sport of which I can think where the rules are so subject to the personal whims of the individual or small group of individuals that the whole concept of the game elements become meaningless. It's fun to extract a ball from a divot. Sure, your score might be slightly higher but it may ultimately not be higher.

The point is more people need to actually try and stop griping. It's not slower, it's not an ordeal. It is fun.

It is when you expect more than your capability, and need to arbitrarily decide how and when to change or modify the game to suit your shortcoming, that I begin to question the motive in the first place. And I think it is reasonable to expect all participants to do their best to play by the rules, especially when it is explicitly stated as a condition for play.

Furthermore, the rules aren't this strict, hand-cuffing, grind of an ordeal.

Don't want to grind out those meaningless 3 footers for a 7 when playing alone? Okay, use Stableford scoring, which is in the rules. Hate water hazards and forced carries and those ilk? Play a forward tee or from an area where those forced carries are taken away. There is nothing in the rules that say you must play from the same set of tee markers throughout the round.

We play by the rules. I play the ball down. The percentage that plays like this is small.

noonan

Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2015, 06:35:36 PM »
Kyle,

Please, give me a break. Watch those poor wretches on Tour marking out their drop area with tees, then dropping and dropping again then placing. Or asking people where a ball crossed the hazard. Or god forbid walking back 200 yards to the tee when they can't find a ball. They are not having fun as far as I can see.

Of the many types of people golf appeals to, one type is the person who just love, love, loves all sorts of legalistic angels on the head of a pin debates and elaborate rituals of taking exactly the correct drop or determining who does or doesn't get relief from which obscure situation. Good on 'em, they can really yuck it up if they like that kind of thing.

Another type is the person who likes to hit it, find it, hit it again and see how quickly they can get it in the hole. I don't see any use for fluffing my lie and in fact I routinely ignore situations where I may well be "entitled" to "free" relief. All that nonsense is to me a distraction from the simple joy of knocking the ball through the air a couple times then rolling it in the hole.

My favorite form of golf (not in keeping with the Rules, mind you) is what I used to play with a certain group of guys. We called it Match Play Madness. The only Rule was you don't touch the ball from the time you tee it up until you hole it out. If you can't find your ball or finish the hole without touching the ball then you forfeit the hole. Otherwise just keep playing. No order-of-play Honors. No drops. No marking, cleaning, penalty strokes. Just try to hit the ball fewer times than your opponent.

The further the Rules of Golf evolved from that simple starting point, the more they moved the game away from what the widest range of people would consider fun. It's no surprise that millions of golfers have played the game by some subset of the Rules. Otherwise, the game would have died out long ago under the weight of its own accumulated pomposity.

This is full of win!

noonan

Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2015, 06:37:32 PM »
Jerry,

Download, fill in the blanks, check off the appropriate boxes, sign, and mail*.




*and don't forget the donuts if you go there again.  ;)



Noted :)

Steve Lang

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2015, 06:40:56 PM »
 8) Why on earth would anybody really think that not picking their ball up on the green was so special and promoting pure golf???


I can relate to when off the green, if you're bending down, ya better be tying your shoes!
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JNC Lyon

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #81 on: May 05, 2015, 09:35:44 PM »
I'm re-reading the first post. A couple notes:

Did you hit your golf balls into the range after an employee asked you not to? That is how I read your description of the incident. This seems rude at best, and I'm not sure they would welcome your business again. I wouldn't really feel comfortable hitting my own golf balls onto a range at a public course that charged for range balls, especially where, even at 8:20 in the morning, it would be pretty obvious that all the golf balls on the range were yellow. It would also be pretty obvious that the range was closed for maintenance issues.

Why does hitting four golf balls help you get "loose" in the first place? Do some air squats and shoulder pass-throughs with the driver instead, and you will be way more ready to go than you would be after cranking four drivers under the glare of an understandably perturbed club employee. If you're concerned about hitting a house off the first tee, maybe you should lay up with an iron.

As far as the rules go, just play the ball as you find it, know your water hazard options, and hit a provisional if it's in the junk. Maybe it's force of habit from years of junior golf, but I still measure out one club length for a local rule-specified free drop. If that's too much of an inconvenience, then how you do manage to put on pants in the morning?
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Sean_A

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2015, 04:40:29 AM »
This is most definitely a heavy sigh/lets make mountains out of molehills thread.  So a guy hit a few balls when he was asked not to.  So a guy wants to push his ball about.  In the big scheme of life its small beer.  Live and let live.

The attitudes expressed in this thread are eerily similar to the faux outrage we see on social media these days.  Yes, it seems to be addictive for some, but it is also tiresome.

Ciao
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David_Elvins

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2015, 05:23:03 AM »
Hey, he outraged first.
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Sean_A

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #84 on: May 06, 2015, 06:00:43 AM »
Hey, he outraged first.

Faux outraged  :D

Ciao
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Kyle Harris

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2015, 08:47:27 AM »
Really no outrage, just a quizzical sort of curiosity.

A little over seven years ago, I started a thread questioning the intent, utility, and overall effect of Dress Codes. The response I received in the vast majority of replies was, to put it lightly, the equivalent of a verbal pillory.

Jerry gets raked over the coals for not following a policy or rule.

Yet, we don't find it all that curious or odd that the vast majority of participants here bend, break, or ignore the rules of the game they set out to play.

So someone is curious about golf and wants to learn. We teach them that how we dress and how we behave in the clubhouse is sacrosanct. Then we go out on to the course, and actually play the game about which they are curious, but start arbitrarily applying and ignoring rules of the game to suit, frankly, our egos. Rules which are relatively simple and are typically explicitly stated under conduct guidelines for the course, which to me at least implies a de facto agreement for paying the green fee and using the course in the first place.

Utterly ridiculous and backward thinking. No wonder few people outside of the indoctrinated masses of golfers find the game remotely tasteful.

Many of spectator sports have a variants that are participation sports. Few play baseball, for example. But variants like stickball, wiffleball, softball, etc. all exist and are well known. Nobody confuses these with baseball, however. They are baseball-like, however. Certain variants are also prohibited from play on certain fields intended solely for Baseball.

Yet, when I suggest that those who adapt the rules are playing a Golf-like game....

*sigh*
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Jud_T

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #86 on: May 06, 2015, 08:56:10 AM »
You guys are missing one key point about the playing by the rules debate.  Guys with vanity handicaps are easy picking for those of us with a predilection for gambling on the course.  Of course enforcing the rules and collecting from those folks generally makes for an unpleasant afternoon.  All the more reason to play for larger stakes.... 8)
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Rob Marshall

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #87 on: May 06, 2015, 09:05:17 AM »
Played in Florida with my mother a couple years ago. We hit a few balls before teeing off .  I didn't notice my mother putting half a bucket of balls into the back of the cart. We get done and I'm putting our clubs in the car and she hands the bucket. I ask her what she's doing and she tells me she's playing there again next week and will use them then.
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Brent Hutto

Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #88 on: May 06, 2015, 09:07:09 AM »
Kyle,

I tried your version of golf when I first started out. The version I eventually settled on (which I think you would find differs from yours in only a few particulars) is much more enjoyable. I can only assume the degenerate game played by the lie fluffing, ball rolling, putt picking up hackers to which you refer is in turn more enjoyable FOR THEMSELVES than your version or mine would be.

It matters not at all to me if the guys playing on the same course as me are playing a slightly different form of golf at the same time I'm doing my thing and you're doing yours. That doesn't bother me any more than knowing some old guys are in the locker room playing cards and sipping gin while I am on the course playing golf and drinking Gatorade.

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #89 on: May 06, 2015, 09:28:09 AM »
Jerry,
With all due respect, I can't imagine why you are struggling to see the course's POV on this; it is a VERY simple issue.  Businesses can't give away budgeted services for free, and patrons shouldn't expect it.

I have a very large Dell computer box full of old golf balls in my garage.  I think you and I would agree that taking the box with me to a driving range and hitting them without paying wouldn't be acceptable.  So really, you are upset because you only wanted to hit 4 balls instead of 400, right?

So where is the dividing line?  And does that line extend to ALL facets of the course operation?  Can you play just one or two extra holes?  Can you bring just a little of your own food and beverage?  If you pay the walking fee is it ok to jump on the back of a cart for just a few of the longer walks on the course?

Either it ALL matters, or none of it does.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Steve Lang

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #90 on: May 06, 2015, 09:44:52 AM »
 8) Seriously, an "in bag cooler" can be quite practical to protect consumables and conserve natural resources..  :D :D

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Andrew Buck

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #91 on: May 06, 2015, 09:56:15 AM »

Yet, we don't find it all that curious or odd that the vast majority of participants here bend, break, or ignore the rules of the game they set out to play.

Rules which are relatively simple and are typically explicitly stated under conduct guidelines for the course, which to me at least implies a de facto agreement for paying the green fee and using the course in the first place.

Many of spectator sports have a variants that are participation sports. Few play baseball, for example. But variants like stickball, wiffleball, softball, etc. all exist and are well known. Nobody confuses these with baseball, however. They are baseball-like, however. Certain variants are also prohibited from play on certain fields intended solely for Baseball.

Yet, when I suggest that those who adapt the rules are playing a Golf-like game....


*sigh*

Kyle,

First, I don't think anyone objects to your distinction that playing the game without following the rules is playing a "golf-like" game, just like softball is a "baseball-like" game.  I object to your implication, or outright assertion that most golf course operators should view violations of any rule, as a "de facto" violation of the contract to play the course and escort them off the property, or force modification of behavior.  

From a quick look at your blog, it appears you're lucky enough to be involved with one of the few public courses in the country that will attract a retail golfer that is likely to consistently understand and follow the rules.  Even with that said, I suspect the powers that be at Streamsong would prefer a group that has many lost balls would not go back to the tee multiple times in a round, or decide they should deny play to someone who didn't call a penalty on themselves for a ball that moved during address.  

I also think it's wrong to assert that the vast majority of participants here bend, break, or ignore rules, unless you are taking an overly legalistic view, which I suspect you do.  I suspect most of the participants on this board, like me, know and follow the rules in all cases where there is some form of competition or match.  

That said, I suspect most participants, like me bend, break or ignore certain rules, for the purpose of saving time or practice, in some occasions on the golf course.  For example, this morning I walked 18 holes at dawn prior to work, which I do as often as I can in the summer.  This morning, I failed to follow the rules three times.  On the second hole, while there was still a very thick fog, I couldn't find my drive in the area I suspected I hit it just off the right side of the fairway.  If it was "friendly" match play, I would forfeit the hole and be within the rules as opposed to walk back to re-tee, but since it wasn't, in this case I simply dropped a ball and took my maximum allowable score for the hole, as I need to be off the course by 7:30 to get to the office by 8:00.  On the 10th hole, my ball was barely on the right side of the green, about 30 feet from the cup ... for times sake, I just parked my bag next to my ball and putted, with the pin in, the ball went in, however I didn't assess myself a penalty, because I feel like that would be more dishonest for handicap purposes than taking the made put.  On the 15th hole, I chipped to about 6 inches and picked up the ball (and no one was there to conceed it).  These are all technically rules of golf, and maybe my club should revoke my membership as a result, but I think that would be silly.

I enjoyed my morning, got exercise, spent time in nature and practiced the game ... if you find harm in that, so be it.

Brent Hutto

Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #92 on: May 06, 2015, 10:13:51 AM »
When I first took up the game, I was given advice (by not just one or two but at least half a dozen different people) that it was crucially important to always, without fail, play the ball down and putt it out and finish ever hole even if it took 20 strokes. And if a course was too hard for a total beginner to play and finish every hole while obeying every rule than I ought to seek out a Par 3 course somewhere and play there until I could graduate to a real course.

It took me over a year to realize what total bollocks that advice really was. I'm not exaggerating to say that often after a round I'd go home and pore over my (printed) copy of the Rules of Golf trying to confirm whether some drop procedure had been followed correctly in a complicated situation. I also, by the way, usually rode in a golf cart those first months because the guy I most often played with always rode and I thought that was how the game was supposed to be.

I well remember my second summer when two realizations dawned on me. One was that the game was an entirely different and more thoroughly engaging experience on foot without being encumbered by a golf cart. The other was that I was going to virtually never played in a stroke play tournament for which 90% of that Rule book was necessary. I became a convert to walking the course, hitting the ball, finding it and hitting it again.

P.S. Additional bonus realization. Sending beginners off to a typically narrow, tree and water choked Par 3 course tucked onto a tiny sliver of otherwise unusable land is just about the worst possible advice. Also bad advice, telling them to learn the game on a driving range instead of just playing on a course. When asked now about how to learn the game, I steer beginners to the most wide-open pastureland cheap public course I know of and tell them to play as often as possible along with maybe a couple 30-minute lessons so a qualified golf teacher can instill the most basic fundamentals of grip, posture and alignment. But basically GO PLAY.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2015, 10:18:57 AM by Brent Hutto »

Neil White

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #93 on: May 06, 2015, 10:16:24 AM »
4 pages............

WTF.

Mike Hendren

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2015, 10:17:08 AM »
It is an interesting thought for a course to offer 5-10 balls for a dollar.  I think in many cases such as the municipal course or some other public courses offering that might actually increase some revenues.  I can hit all the range balls i want at my club, but if i want to hit a couple before going out I will often wander to the range and use a couple from a friends bucket or snag a couple from the front of the tee.  If I grab a bucket and head out there to hit the 4-5 that I normally hit, it leaves an entire bucket almost for someone to hit and they didnt have to pay for it.  That's just not great business.

I agree. Often I just want to hit 5-10 balls. Rancho Park in LA is the only place I can ever remember where you could buy $1 worth of balls from the automatic ball dispenser machine. That was over 10 years ago. Not sure if they still do that.

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Andrew Bernstein

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #95 on: May 06, 2015, 10:43:24 AM »
4 pages............

WTF.

This thread is my new guilty pleasure.

Kyle Harris

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #96 on: May 06, 2015, 12:13:09 PM »
Andrew,

You are arguing from the extremist viewpoint here. However, I do wonder about your motives since it is apparent you were playing this morning with the intent to post your score for a handicap. As you well know, the most criticized aspect of the US Handicap System is the need to count every stroke.

Why did you choose to play medal play this morning if you knew conditions would not be ripe for a handicap round?

Why did you choose to hit a club, into the fog, that you could potentially lose because you couldn't see? The gambling aspect of the sport ceases to exist if the risk is removed... of course, you used ESC, which is within the rules, so why even mention that case? Equitable Stroke Control is a built in mechanism to prevent sandbagging and ensure a pace of play without undue delay.

The fallacy of the argument against a stricter application of the rules is that the set of rules being applied is solely for a medal play tournament. The USGA rulebook is ripe with formats that permit a more casual play style.

The discussion about the current handicap system is a bit irrelevant because those rules are very specific and most GHIN organizations are held to enforcement for the sake of preserving the integrity of the system across the local Golf Association and their tournaments. Clearly if you want a handicap, you want to compete, and if you want to compete, the rules are there for a reason.

This discussion is about leniency as it pertains to damage/wear on a golf course and the intent of the participants on it. It is sociological and to me the implications of this run deep both in club culture, the continued health of the golf industry, and golf architecture. If participants are more willing to accept/play through rub of the green and other less-than-ideal situations, they are then going to be more willing to accept the implications of lower cost maintenance and quirkier and more sustainably-designed golf courses.

It is reasonable to me that a golfer seen rolling the ball out of a divot/poor lie in the fairway should be asked to stop doing so. It is unreasonable to me to escort them off the property for such a violation, let's encourage correct behavior, not punish poor behavior. I tend to believe that establishing/encouraging a playing-golf-first culture at any facility makes the experience better for the whole.

Isn't it telling to anyone about the culture of a place/game that it is a larger social crime to not wear a coat to dinner/denim on the golf course than it is to bend/break the rule of the game?

Brent,

There is a distinct difference for beginners in forcing them to hole out on every hole and teaching that the first instinct of any golfer should be to use the club to advance the ball. Perhaps that's where the discord exists. I've introduced a few people to the game, and without question I do everything in power to ensure that their first few play experiences are from/at places where they will not lose a ball and they can continue to strike the ball until holed. The first arrow in their quiver from me is the five foot putt, which can be learned very easily on any practice green.

I am reminded of a round I played several years ago at World Woods Rolling Oaks with two high school aged golfers. One was fairly talented and the other had just started within the past few months. On the tee, the agreed to play a match and the more talented player suggested match play and offered 10 shots per side to his opponent. The less skilled player balked at this format as the only thing he knew was medal play to that point. They proceeded at medal play. They played by every rule and the match went smoothly as far as pace of play and rules could go. Obviously, the more talented player built a significant lead, however, the less skilled player had a few good and a few great holes. By the 15th, the disparity was something like 20 shots and I asked to look over their score card.

After assigning the proper shots, it turns out the less-skilled player would have been 1-up in the match!

Reading through this thread for me shows that our acceptance of the rules is largely a product of how we are introduced to them.
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Carl Nichols

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #97 on: May 06, 2015, 12:37:47 PM »
It is an interesting thought for a course to offer 5-10 balls for a dollar.  I think in many cases such as the municipal course or some other public courses offering that might actually increase some revenues.  I can hit all the range balls i want at my club, but if i want to hit a couple before going out I will often wander to the range and use a couple from a friends bucket or snag a couple from the front of the tee.  If I grab a bucket and head out there to hit the 4-5 that I normally hit, it leaves an entire bucket almost for someone to hit and they didnt have to pay for it.  That's just not great business.

I agree. Often I just want to hit 5-10 balls. Rancho Park in LA is the only place I can ever remember where you could buy $1 worth of balls from the automatic ball dispenser machine. That was over 10 years ago. Not sure if they still do that.

"How much for an order of ribs. . . . Let me get one. . . . One rib."

At Martin's Barbecue Joint in Nolensville, TN it's called "Add-A-Bone."  I recommend spare over babyback and dry rub over wet.

Bogey


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Jim Sherma

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #98 on: May 06, 2015, 12:39:57 PM »
It is an interesting thought for a course to offer 5-10 balls for a dollar.  I think in many cases such as the municipal course or some other public courses offering that might actually increase some revenues.  I can hit all the range balls i want at my club, but if i want to hit a couple before going out I will often wander to the range and use a couple from a friends bucket or snag a couple from the front of the tee.  If I grab a bucket and head out there to hit the 4-5 that I normally hit, it leaves an entire bucket almost for someone to hit and they didnt have to pay for it.  That's just not great business.

I agree. Often I just want to hit 5-10 balls. Rancho Park in LA is the only place I can ever remember where you could buy $1 worth of balls from the automatic ball dispenser machine. That was over 10 years ago. Not sure if they still do that.

"How much for an order of ribs. . . . Let me get one. . . . One rib."

At Martin's Barbecue Joint in Nolensville, TN it's called "Add-A-Bone."  I recommend spare over babyback and dry rub over wet.

Bogey


Glad someone got my joke.

Can they change a hundred?

JC Jones

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Re: Driving range wear? Do not hit your balls on our range!
« Reply #99 on: May 06, 2015, 01:45:10 PM »
I wonder who is going to break it to the kids playing little league that they aren't playing baseball.


The good news for players who decide to waive some of the rules is that they are "disqualified" (from what, who knows) and free to play the game how they want to the rest of the round.




« Last Edit: May 06, 2015, 01:53:02 PM by JC Jones »
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.