Football Teams vs. Golf Architects

[JakaB]

As a tribute to the start of the only true sporting season..

If a team were to be an architect which would he be....I can see Flynn being the Steelers if not for location but the incredible short run of greatness based on anything but intelligence.

Now if I only knew of a highly overated one hit wonder like the Bears.

[JakaB]

It pains me to say it...but Fazio could be the 85 Bears considering that one season is 200 of the top 20 of all time...in the windy city mind that is.

[GeoffreyC]

Sorry JakaB but Fazio never approached the greatness of the 85 Bears.  They were short lived but a very bright star.  Perhaps George Crump would be the 85 Bears (good name for a bear too).  One time wonder.

Fazio might be the Jets.  A rather lucky 69 Super Bowl with Joe Namath but living on hope, dreams, smoke and mirrors for the last 34 years. Oh I forgot the New York business and media like hype.

[Phil_the_Author]

America's Team - the Dallas Cowboys.

Beloved by so many from coast-to-coast, yet hated by what would seem to be an equal number of "knowledgeable football fans" who love it when they fall flat on their faces.

Only can be - Rees Jones.

[JakaB]

I thought Rees Jones was the Buffalo Bills....Lots of trips to the big show with no trophies..

[DMoriarty]

As a tribute to the start of the only true sporting season..

JakaB:  

Hunting season starts pretty early in your neck of the woods.  


Let's see . . . MacKenzie's work is enduring, world renown, honored, very different than what passes for the modern game in the US  . . . how about Manchester United?  

[ForkaB]

Dave

Good call on Man. U as they are loved everywhere except in Manchester, just as Dr. MacK is revered everywhere except in Scotland!

[Brad Klein]

This comparison is unfair to football. There's only one Cincinnati Bengals, but an awful lot of design teams that are going nowhere for an entire career.

[JakaB]

I thought MacKenzie was the St. Louis Rams...Outstanding offensive strategy but no defense.

[David Wigler]

Raynor is the Michigan Wolverines.  Every course is wonderful although similar.  Consistence and excellence!!

[JakaB]

The best thing about Raynor = Michigan is that it follows that Bo = Roger Rulewich.

[David Wigler]

Can we save this for nomination as "Barf Inducing Post of the Year" ?  

When you said Raynor = Michigan, I thought you were going to refer to their blindly and mypoically allegient cults (oops, I meant "fan bases")!  

Clearly Northwestern would be Art Hills.  Occasionally something is acceptable (Half Moon Bay would be like the fluke season they went to the Rose Bowl and got crushed) but for the most part, it sucks!  

[David Wigler]

Dave,

You are dillusional.  1995 does not denote consistency for a program playing football for over 100 years.  Let's look at it since 1985 - Michigan 11 titles, Northwestern 5.  Or 1975, Michigan 16 titles, Northwestern 5.  Or 1967 (The year we were born) Michigan 21 titles, Northwestern 5.  Or how about alltime records - Michigan 823-269-36 (The winningest program in the history of college football), Northwestern 427-577-43.  Do you want me to get into head-to-head?  Art Hills might be a compliment.

[THuckaby2]

Oh come on guys, this is so obvious I can't believe you missed it.

Fazio is NOTRE DAME.  Beloved by the ignorant masses, hopping on the bandwagon, but in truth all sizzle and no steak, with no actual greatness in most of our adult lives.

God I hope Pat Mucci sees this, if only because I look forward to a classic retort as to whom he compares USC....

 

TH

[Darren_Kilfara]

Seriously, I can't believe someone is trying to defend the quality of Northwestern football with a straight face.

Coore + Crenshaw = San Francisco 49ers? Consistent excellence, often reaching the heights of greatness...

Cheers,
Darren

[Michael Moore]

Steve Smyers would be like the Green Bay Packers, with some injuries in the secondary, but returning a solid young linebacking corps.

Arthur Hills would be like the New England Patriots - experimenting with the 3-4 in the preseason and again some questions regarding the special teams.

Herbert Fowler would be like the San Diego Chargers, with a favorable schedule down the stretch. Can he do better in the red zone this year?

[David Wigler]

Michael,

New England won a Superbowl and made another.  Art Hills is Northwestern!!

[mike_malone]

 Flynn is STRATH HAVEN High School.Well known for excellence in PA.(4 STRAIGHT state championship appearances-2 wins-looking good this year,6 years no losses in regular season).Not known out of the area.Consistently successful.Makes few mistakes.Great use of the ground game.A pleasure to watch.

[THuckaby2]

So me going back to 1995 might as well be going back into the 4th century when Theodoric of York was the team's Midevil Barber/ head coach.  8 years is the right number, since that's about your average graduation time over there, right?  

I have to butt in and say that is the funniest line I have read on here in a LONG time, if not ever.  That not only got audible yuks, it got tears.

But I have no dog in this fight.  Back to your regularly-scheduled battle of the Big Ten.
TH

[David Wigler]

Ok Schmidt you ignorant slut.  I'll play by your rules but not until mentioning that Michigan's alltime record against Northwestern is 48-14-2.  

So 1995 and up is all that matters.

Michigan 77-23, 5-3 in bowl games and one National Championship
Northwestern 45-49, 0-3 in bowl games with five non-qualifiers.

Last Michigan team with a losing record and therefore ineligible for a bowl - 1965.
Last Northwestern team with a losing record - Last year.

Stop pushing it or I may downgrade Northwestern from Art Hills to Damian Pascuzzo

[JakaB]

I think both of you have made a good case for Michigan to equal Raynor...Michican has a fine history of classic efforts but currently lacks the tools to challenge the modern game.

[THuckaby2]

Ouch.  Dave is Carl Williams.  That truth had to hurt.

OK, no more butt-ins from this alma mater of a school that doesn't even have football.

TH

[David Wigler]

I think both of you have made a good case for Michigan to equal Raynor...Michican has a fine history of classic efforts but currently lacks the tools to challenge the modern game.

LACKS THE TOOLS?

Let's just use the last six years.  Michigan is 60-15 (The third best record in the country over that span) with 1 national Championship and a 5-1 record in bowl games.  In addition, they are currently ranked #5 in the country and are a sleeper pick for the national championship.  Michigan is dominating the modern game.  Maybe I should have said Mackenzie, since his designs clearly stand the test of time.

[JakaB]

Whats really funny is that my son is currently thinking about attending Indiana University....The Ron Kern of football.

[Tony_Chapman]

I am giving a shout out to Axland and Proctor. They are the Nebraska Cornhuskers of golf design!! They consistently get courses that gain attention on the national scale with Nebraska land. Much like the Huskers who win National Football crowns (please, no digs on last year) with our own guys from this great state.