[Gary Sato]

So many great courses have been built in far flung areas, such as Mullen, Bandon and Streamsong.

My question is what great courses have been built in a cosmopolitan area in the last 25 years?

Criteria:

1) City must have at least 1 million people.
2) Location must be within 20 miles (32 kilometers) of downtown.

Examples:

Boston GC - Boston
Ferry Point - New York
The Grove - London

[Garland Bayley]

Since Boston doesn't have 1 million people, I going to go with you meaning the urban area.

Clearly it's Seattle/Tacoma with Chambers Bay.

QED

[Jaeger Kovich]

C'mon, you have already dubbed Ferry Point as the "great" example for NYC?! I think Bayonne Golf Club is leading the NYC group until proven otherwise.

I haven't played The Grove, but DMK's Queenwood could be nominated for London

You probably need to think more internationally for this list:
The Rio Olympic course will fit the bill when it opens.
Yas Links in Abu Dhabi
A project I worked on, Tom Doak's first in Asia, Simapo Island in Hainan, China.

I'm not sure if the denver courses are close enough/good enough for the list.

[Bill Gayne]

Kinloch. Metropolitan Richmond is 1.2 million peeps. The city though is only a little over 200k.

[Jason Topp]

Some additional courses that might qualify from the Golfweek Modern list:

Shadow Creek

Calusa Pines? - not sure how big Naples is.

Dallas National

Colorado Golf Club

[SL_Solow]

Hidden creek

[Wayne Wiggins, Jr.]

Hidden creek

Another in the Philly area is Applebrook... or you could go further out a bit with Stonewall or even French Creek. 

[Jaeger Kovich]

Hidden creek

Another in the Philly area is Applebrook... or you could go further out a bit with Stonewall or even French Creek. 

I don't think any of these would really qualify as Urban.

[Wayne Wiggins, Jr.]

Hidden creek

Another in the Philly area is Applebrook... or you could go further out a bit with Stonewall or even French Creek. 

I don't think any of these would really qualify as Urban.

Good point.  at least they aren't yet...

[J_ Crisham]

Chicago Highlands- Arthur Hills design in the western suburbs of Chicago.

[Kyle Harris]

Hidden creek

Another in the Philly area is Applebrook... or you could go further out a bit with Stonewall or even French Creek. 

I don't think any of these would really qualify as Urban.

Good point.  at least they aren't yet...

Nor are they within twenty miles of Downto.... I mean Center City.

[Terry Lavin]

Chicago Highlands- Arthur Hills design in the western suburbs of Chicago.

Garbage on top of a dump.

[archie_struthers]

Of metro courses I've seen in the last twenty five , it's Bayonne!

[Scott Weersing]

So what new course is within 20 miles of downtown?

Here are a few but it is a stretch:

Rustic Canyon, within 20 miles of the San Fernando Valley, which has no downtown, but lots of people.

Troon North G.C., Scottsdale, Ariz., Jay Morrish & Tom Weiskopf. (Now Troon North's Monument Cse.)

Pumpkin Ridge, near Portland Oregon.

Old Memorial G.C., Tampa, Fla., Steve Smyers.

Dallas National G.C., Dallas, Tom Fazio.

Stone Eagle C., Palm Desert, Calif., Tom Doak.

TPC San Francisco Bay at Stonebrae, Hayward, Calif., David Mclay Kidd


And what about this one, the least favorite metro course:

Liberty National G.C., Jersey City, N.J., Bob Cupp and Tom Kite

[Phil McDade]

Does Sheboygan count as urban?

Erin Hills is in a really quaint and beautiful rural area of Wisconsin, and it's technically in the U.S. Census designated urban area for greater Milwaukee, which has 1+ million people. But it's about 35 miles to downtown.

[HarryBrinkerhoffDoyleIV_aka_Barry]

Colorado - hands down.

Would be an interesting thread to identify ALL great clubs within 20 miles of an urban area (regardless of modern vs. classic).

[jeffwarne]

Does Sheboygan count as urban?

Erin Hills is in a really quaint and beautiful rural area of Wisconsin, and it's technically in the U.S. Census designated urban area for greater Milwaukee, which has 1+ million people. But it's about 35 miles to downtown.

While almost NONE of these courses are in an urban area save Bayonne and those listed in the initial post, to consider Erin Hills in a "urban" area is a bit of a thread ender

[Carl Nichols]

Agreed 20 miles is tough.  In DC, Four Streams and Robert Trent Jones Golf Club were built in the last 25 years and are less than 35 miles from where Key Bridge hits Georgetown. 

[Robert Mercer Deruntz]

Truely new urban courses must be very small in number.  In NY there is Liberty National, Bayonne, and Ferry Point.  In Bentonville Harbor there is Harbor Shores.  In Chicago there is Harborside International and Highlands of Elgin.  Really cannot think of any other urban courses since 1980.

[Buck Wolter]

Gateway National by Keith Foster, circa 1998, is 7-8 Miles from downtown St Louis and half that as the crow flies. Really flies under the radar and I think it is a very good golf course --gets lost in the shuffle as it gets ranked in Illinois and no one in Illinois claims the east side of St Louis is actually Illinois. Far and away the best public course in the St Louis metro.

[Jason Way]

The Glen Club by Tom Fazio in Glenview, IL opened in 2011 and is almost exactly 20 miles from downtown Chicago.  Not my favorite course, but it gets quite a bit of love from people who don't visit this website.

[J_ Crisham]

The Glen Club by Tom Fazio in Glenview, IL opened in 2011 and is almost exactly 20 miles from downtown Chicago.  Not my favorite course, but it gets quite a bit of love from people who don't visit this website.

Jason- You may want to check your dates- it opened way before 2011- It was in the early 2000's.

[Jason Way]

The Glen Club by Tom Fazio in Glenview, IL opened in 2011 and is almost exactly 20 miles from downtown Chicago.  Not my favorite course, but it gets quite a bit of love from people who don't visit this website.

Jason- You may want to check your dates- it opened way before 2011- It was in the early 2000's.

Damn typing issues. 2001 is when it opened.

[Ian Mackenzie]

While I would stop very short of calling it "great", Harborside International in Chicago definitely qualifies as a new, urban course. Designed by Dick Nugent (Dunes Club, Kemper Lakes - 1989 PGA) H.I. is in Chicago and is 20 minutes from the heart of a city of over 3 million people.

It has hosted a Senior Tour event and, while it can be widely criticized, is just plain fun. Good greens, no trees with a quasi-linksy feel, it has 36 holes,a wonderful practice facility with a dedictaed practice hole. Views of the Chicago skyline plus some of the foulest odors the city can produce as it is adjacent to many industrial crap-holes...;-)

But, if you did not have access to a private course, and did not want to drive for an hour, it is a good solution when you are in the city.

http://www.harborsideinternational.com/

[Jason Way]

Presidio Golf Club was overhauled and opened to the public in 1995, I believe.  A bit of a stretch for the question, but certainly as urban as it gets.  Wasn't the revitalization of Harding Park in that same time frame, or perhaps a bit more recent?

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