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Wade Whitehead

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Courses Without OB
« on: January 09, 2015, 04:22:43 PM »
What great courses do not feature "out of bounds" at any point during the round?

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Benjamin Litman

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 04:28:18 PM »
This sounds like a trick question to me, so I'll answer each and every one of them.
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Patrick Kiser

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 04:53:25 PM »
Ballyneal...
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Sam Morrow

Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2015, 05:01:16 PM »
Dismal, Sand Hills, Wildhorse,  Prairie Club.
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Chris Roselle

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2015, 05:25:10 PM »
I don't think Hidden Creek in New Jersey has any ob.
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Keith OHalloran

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2015, 05:41:20 PM »
I doubt The Bridge has out of bounds (and yes I think it is great). Does Sebonack have out of bounds?
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Don Jordan

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2015, 05:44:06 PM »
I can't recall any at Royal Melbourne at least on the West Course, and I don't think Augusta does either. On the flip side I used to be a member at Darwin Golf Club that had OB on 17 holes.
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Jon Cavalier

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2015, 05:52:16 PM »
No OB at Chechessee Creek.
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Jonathan Mallard

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2015, 07:33:31 PM »
Don't remember any at Pacific Dunes.
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Carl Rogers

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 07:52:45 PM »
Quote from: Jonathan Mallard on January 09, 2015, 07:33:31 PM
Don't remember any at Pacific Dunes.
left of 18 is not ob??
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2015, 08:51:19 PM »
As the starter on Bandon Dunes tells everyone, the only out of bounds on any of the four courses is to the right off the first tee.

Ballyneal has OB on the right side of #4.
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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2015, 08:54:00 PM »
Don

On RM West you could hit it out of bounds on 11,14 and 15.
On the East 2,3,4,5,7,10,11,14,15 and 17 have boundaries on the right.
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Wade Whitehead

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2015, 08:58:23 PM »
[Way] over the green on #12 is out of bounds, right?

How about the cabins (say, beside #10).  Is that area OB?

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Wade Whitehead

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2015, 09:01:40 PM »
A golf course here in Roanoke (originally a Flynn design) now has OB to the right on seventeen consecutive holes (beginning with the approach on #2 and continuing on literally every shot through the eighteenth green).

There isn't a single instance of OB to the left and there are no homes on the golf course.

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archie_struthers

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2015, 09:29:11 PM »
 ??? ::)


I was going to say Pine Valley because over the course of 1,000 rounds there I can't remember anyone hitting one OB . However , I can think of two places where it just might be possible .
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Don Jordan

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2015, 09:49:09 PM »
thanks for the correction Mike, must admit I didn't even notice it though except for 15.

I would imagine every course has something, car parks, club house, boundary fence it is just how often or how bad does it have to be to knock one ob.
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jim_lewis

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2015, 09:52:40 PM »
My definition of "great" applies to very few golf courses. However, if I may substitute "Excellent", I can add both courses at Forest Creek.
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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2015, 10:01:38 PM »
Don,

It takes an awful shot to hit it OB on most of the sandbelt courses but the many holes which have had to be changed suggest it's a problem
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jeffwarne

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2015, 10:03:14 PM »
Quote from: Keith OHalloran on January 09, 2015, 05:41:20 PM
I doubt The Bridge has out of bounds (and yes I think it is great). Does Sebonack have out of bounds?

No OB at The Bridge
The track is in play
No stakes on any color at The Bridge, though there is a seasonal pond short and way right of 8 fairway

Sebonack? right of one in NGLA's pro shop I assume would be out of bounds
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Joe Zucker

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2015, 10:24:06 PM »
It's been said above that a lot of great courses don't have OB and I mostly agree with that.  But does OB have a strategic merit?  Or is it just a necessary evil that will always exist on property lines?  I know Hoylake has the in course OB around one of their Par 5s, but I can't remember it prominently featured on most great courses.

I would prefer my hazards to have the possibility of getting out of trouble, no matter how tough the recovery might be.  The stroke and distance penalty is very harsh, but I suppose it would force the player to consider it.  In general I'm not a a fan of OB, but I would love to hear if others think it can have strategic merit? 
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2015, 11:22:04 PM »
Quote from: Sven Nilsen on January 09, 2015, 08:51:19 PM
As the starter on Bandon Dunes tells everyone, the only out of bounds on any of the four courses is to the right off the first tee.

Ballyneal has OB on the right side of #4.

Strike that comment on Ballyneal.  The scorecard notes there is no Out of Bounds on the course.
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Chuck Glowacki

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2015, 06:07:45 AM »
NGLA has no out of bounds, says so right on the card.  Jeff, into the pro shop off Seabonack's first tee, would be way way
right, on occasion balls do fly into the caddy yard.
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Jon Stein

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2015, 10:30:09 AM »
There is no OB at the Mid Ocean Club in Bermuda. The scorecard states:

"There is no out of bounds. Please do not damage plants while searching for, or playing, a ball from private property."
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Mark Fedeli

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Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2015, 11:34:13 AM »
Quote from: Sam Morrow on January 09, 2015, 05:01:16 PM
Dismal, Sand Hills, Wildhorse,  Prairie Club.

I believe PC Dunes has an OB fence down the right side of #2. I remember this because I was up against it, despite that fairway being wider than the grand canyon.
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Sam Morrow

Re: Courses Without OB
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2015, 12:24:54 PM »
Quote from: Mark Fedeli on January 10, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: Sam Morrow on January 09, 2015, 05:01:16 PM
Dismal, Sand Hills, Wildhorse,  Prairie Club.

I believe PC Dunes has an OB fence down the right side of #2. I remember this because I was up against it, despite that fairway being wider than the grand canyon.

I stand corrected but that is quite a fairway to miss!
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