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corey miller

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Re: Green Committee interviews?
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2014, 11:02:35 AM »

I am sure that Mike Policano is a superior committee chair.  I would offer,  that based on the work and changes I have seen, and having Mike as the committee chair, the Superintendent is very good. I don't think Mike would tolerate anything less.   

Most all the responses on this thread make sense, the problem is not all clubs have Mike Policano's in leadership roles, or fine Superintendents or club managers. 

I would stipulate that any Super that frequents this site is the type of person I would want at my club.  I would also stipulate that any green chair that participates on this site is most likely very good. 

The problem is the average club does not have such Supers and does not have such people in leadership positions so I have a hard time accepting some of these answers. 

We have any number of clubs that have maintenance practices that appeal to the lowest common denominator..How did that happen?  And we are told to keep quiet and listen and nod our heads as members of the committee?



I will offer just one observation.  Over many years the greens at many classic era courses have "shrunk".  Indeed, that is often the first and easiest thing to "fix" for a restoration architect .  How did they shrink over all these years?  Do you think that was some committee mandate (under what guise? saving money? making course "harder"), or a function of the Super that we are being told by the USGA to always support etc etc.

We assume because we are on this site that all Supers are Superior and all golfers share the same view on the game and the architecture and how maintenance fits into the puzzle.  They don't. 

In the end, the real answer to this question as to how a greens committee should be formed is "Who is asking" ?

Steve Lapper

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Re: Green Committee interviews?
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2014, 12:06:17 PM »
Truth be told, Mike is/was very overrated!!!

 ;) ;D
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 03:26:09 PM by Steve Lapper »
The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking."--John Kenneth Galbraith

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Green Committee interviews?
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2014, 03:46:45 PM »
Kevin,

Yes, RCC

Terry,

Agree about not interviewing.

Mike,

RCC's green committee functions differently from most.
Most do have decision making power.
You accomplished a great deal from a disadvantaged position.

Corey,

I played a course recently that I'm very familiar with.
It is a terrific golf course.
I was very disappointed with the playing conditions.
The super is eminently qualified.
But, he takes direction from the club.
He has to produce what they want and they want lush green conditions.

So I go back to "the will of the membership"

You can have the best superintendent and the best Green chairman, but if you don't have "the will of the membership" and the money, you're fighting a losing battle




Paul Jones

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Re: Green Committee interviews?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2014, 10:09:57 AM »
What about the Green Committee members who request the Consulting Architect to make the hole(s) harder - he then plants trees.  When asked about the tree planting, the reply would be that came from the Consulting Architect.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2014, 10:12:34 AM by Paul Jones »
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