[archie_struthers]

 

Bob ,  we always get a lot,of,grief when we travel with our handicaps .  I have some friends that can really play that are 5-7.  We have some really good player that are legitimate plus handicaps from neighboring clubs that just can't give me 5-8 shots medal let alone match . They can't win 2 out of ten so something's  not kosher.

When all the AC Country Club guys moved to GB  when the Fraser's sold it to the casino almost to a man the handicaps went up .most from 2 -5 shots

[Jim Nugent]

All the par 5's usually r rated the toughest when in fact they r the easiest.

That may be the case for good players, but for higher handicappers it is not so. They are asked to hit at least 2, and often times 3 long shots on one hole. All kinds of things can go wrong...

Right, and that's also why par 3's are usually handicapped in the high teens.  Fewer full shots = fewer chances to go wrong. 

You are mixing up hole handicap, course rating and slope rating.  The former has nothing to do with the later two. 

It's been a long time, but in my experience par 3s usually get the high hole handicaps, and par 5s usually get the low hole handicaps.  Whatever formula or technique is used to calculate/assign hole handicaps, I believe the underlying reason is the one Matthew and I gave.  The shorter the hole, the fewer chances the bogey golfer has of playing a poor shot.  The longer the hole, the more chances.  That is why they do better, relative to scratch golfers, on shorter holes, and why they are more likely to get strokes on par 3s than par 5s. 

[archie_struthers]

 
Hey Bob , appreciate the reply . But if our course never sees low scores in high end tournament play , how can it be rated so easy . It just shows the process is flawed.

[Ed Brzezowski]

Hello Archie, you are making the exact same case as the folks at Aronomink who think a 130 slope from the backs is too low. They are 126 from the whites.

Bob and his team do a great job and I am sure their numbers held up upon a review before the numbers were published. I guess you have to figure that your course is equally hard for both the scratch player and the poor bogey golfer??

[Bob Harris]

Hey Bob , appreciate the reply . But if our course never sees low scores in high end tournament play , how can it be rated so easy . It just shows the process is flawed.

Archie,
There were 63 ams in the event, of which 3 were under the course rating of 73 and 4 equalled the course rating.  I did not look at the scorecards, but there may have been a few more when the scores are adjusted for ESC.
Also, you can't discount the pressure, the event was a qualifier for the Philly Open.
I did notice, however, had there been a net prize, you would have probably won despite the score on 11.

[archie_struthers]

 

Lol ! How can I argue with you now 

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