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My home course , Greate Bay was originally designed by Willie Park Jr in the mid 1920's . Many of Parks holes remain fairly intact even after a few redo's over the years. It is located close to the Atlantic Ocean near the southern tip of NJ and actually sits east of the Great Egg Harbor Bay in some spots . It is often breezy , has an excellent sand base that drains well and is right now almost as firm and fast as Pinehurst was last week .
Greate Bay has historically been resilient to scoring , with small greens and some subtle false fronts . It isn't overly long at 6780 from the tips, but at par 70 isn't short either. Both par fives play long and aren't gimme birdies by any stretch of the imagination. We have a regular game on monday at 3 pm from the tips (black tee Monday) where some of the best players in Philly show up. Rarely does anyone break par .
In last years philladelphia mid am qualifier on a breezy spring day 77 was low . Yep 77 !
Yet the raters just left town and cut our slope to 127 from the tips due to the lack of water and OB . I just don't get how,they do it . Their formulaic approach to difficulty leaves much to be desired.
Archie,
Yes we do get it, but you omitted the fact that while the slope dropped by 2, the course rating went from 71.2 to 71.9.
You need to include both the course rating and slope to determine the difficulty of a golf course
I was the Captain of the team that rated Greate Bay two weeks ago. Also included was the Director of CR for GAP.
The Black Tees that we rated were measured at 6,530 yards, not 6,780. The Course Rating at 6,780 would be 73.0
We were told by the pro shop staff that for member play, the greens usually stimp at 9'5''. What was the stimp for the tournament?
For comparison:
Hidden Creek 6795 CR 73.1 Slope 133
Galloway 6638 CR 73.0 Slope 142
Atlantic City 6577 CR 72.3 Slope 133
Greate Bay 6531 CR 71.9 Slope 127
Greate Bay (est) 6780 CR 73.0 Slope 130
BTW, we had a "greate" time at the the club and would be happy to come back to rate the course at 6780.