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Pete_Pittock

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Chambers Bay Book
« on: February 22, 2014, 08:27:11 PM »
Chambers Bay is publishing a coffee table book, which will be available in October. They have unabashedly used the website

http://americasstandrews.com/
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Emile Bonfiglio

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 01:34:53 AM »
What a stupid name for a book. What exactly does Chambers Bay have in common with St. Andrews?
- Natural century old contours?
- Significant role in history of the town?
- Iconic clubhouse/buildings?  (they will have one heck of merchandise tent next year though)

I think they have Kohler toilets and that is about where the connection between the two places end for me.

We''ve discussed this before but Bandon and Pinehurst have claim to this title before Chambers Bay does. The book should have been named "Chambers Bay, Home of the Kings Putter"

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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 04:03:57 AM »
Quote from: Emile Bonfiglio on February 23, 2014, 01:34:53 AM
What a stupid name for a book. What exactly does Chambers Bay have in common with St. Andrews?


Emile,

I thought this too. Talk about a crass bit of marketing.

Jon
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PCCraig

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 07:36:15 AM »
I think Chambers Bay is a really neat  place, but the St. Andrews of America? Um, no.
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Scott Weersing

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 08:48:05 AM »

Well, they did get permission, "St. Andrews is used in the title of this book with the permission of St. Andrews Links Trust, the charitable organization which manages the seven public golf courses in St. Andrews, Scotland. Creating golf’s future by honoring its past, St. Andrews Links Trust is dedicated to making the game available and open to all."

What characteristics would a course need to have to be considered a St. Andrews franchise, if the Trust allowed it?

Links golf
Walking golf
Hosts championships
Inexpensive to residents
By the sea

I guess Bandon could be considered also.
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 09:17:34 AM »
 Didn't they spend the same amount of money to build Chambers Bay as St .Andrews has generated in all the years it's been open? That's a connection, isn't it?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 10:36:55 AM »
Quote from: Emile Bonfiglio on February 23, 2014, 01:34:53 AM
What a stupid name for a book. What exactly does Chambers Bay have in common with St. Andrews?
...

More than Astoria CC which has called itself the St. Andrews of the Pacific since its inception.
;)
« Last Edit: February 23, 2014, 10:40:34 AM by GJ Bailey »
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Steve Lang

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 10:49:09 AM »
 8)  In common? …I think they'll have to tinker with it for… errr,  a couple more years :P ::) ::)
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Eric Smith

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 11:08:51 AM »
Irn Bru?
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Matthew Sander

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 12:40:28 PM »
Maybe they are referring to it's role as a part of the town/community with its public walking paths around and within (IIRC) the course boundaries. Just speculating though...
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Ben Sims

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 03:50:30 PM »
Most critics of Chambers as a public facility don't pay taxes for it. My wife, Bogey and I use it two-three times a week. Only a fraction of that is golf related. Oh yeah, and a major championship is coming to it. But what do I know? I'm just a golf architecture geek that loves links golf and lives a mile from the course and pays Pierce Ct taxes.

I have no problem with the name, as outlandish as it may be. Scott Weersing's post above illustrates why.

For the life of me, I'll never understand this websites infatuation with the whipping boys of ANGC and Chambers Bay. Easily the two most hated on courses of recent memory.  What happened to the good ole days of smashing on Fazio and Nicklaus courses?
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William_G

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 05:41:18 PM »
Outlandish title, no doubt
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Emile Bonfiglio

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2014, 07:37:59 PM »
Quote from: Ben Sims on February 23, 2014, 03:50:30 PM
For the life of me, I'll never understand this websites infatuation with the whipping boys of ANGC and Chambers Bay. Easily the two most hated on courses of recent memory.  What happened to the good ole days of smashing on Fazio and Nicklaus courses?

Ben, I love Chambers Bay and as lifelong Oregonian I'm proud to have this gem in the PNW. My remarks have nothing to do with the course, only the name.
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Ben Sims

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2014, 07:39:02 PM »
Quote from: Emile Bonfiglio on February 23, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: Ben Sims on February 23, 2014, 03:50:30 PM
For the life of me, I'll never understand this websites infatuation with the whipping boys of ANGC and Chambers Bay. Easily the two most hated on courses of recent memory.  What happened to the good ole days of smashing on Fazio and Nicklaus courses?

Ben, I love Chambers Bay and as lifelong Oregonian I'm proud to have this gem in the PNW. My remarks have nothing to do with the course, only the name.

Reread your post again.  Forgive me if I thought it was painting my home course in a less than favorable light.  :)
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2014, 09:07:36 PM »
Quote from: William_G on February 23, 2014, 05:41:18 PM
Outlandish title, no doubt

I think Mathew Sander has the right idea.

If you want to talk about outlandish, lets talk about reversing holes so there are forced carries to the green over ponds. ;D
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William_G

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Re: Chambers Bay Book
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2014, 12:16:48 AM »
wow, personalized thread jacks via GJ Bailey...outlandish
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