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John Kavanaugh

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Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« on: January 12, 2014, 09:57:17 AM »
My top five based on historical evidence ranked according to age of inclusion. Not to be homerphobic but like Cher they only need one name.

1. Rustic
2. Lehigh
3. Beverly
4. Dismal
5. Kingsley
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JC Jones

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 10:07:50 AM »
Ballyneal?
Deal?
Holston Hills?
Long Shadow?
Cuscowilla?
Hidden Creek?
Chechessee?

Can we include CCFaDs?  If so, Bandon.
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 10:26:42 AM »
Quote from: JC Jones on January 12, 2014, 10:07:50 AM
Ballyneal?
Deal?
Holston Hills?
Long Shadow?
Cuscowilla?
Hidden Creek?
Chechessee?

Can we include CCFaDs?  If so, Bandon.


There is a difference between having Elton John or Boy George on your play list. Courses like Ballyneal and Bandon are so obviously great on their own that homerphobia does not enter into the discussion.
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Nigel Islam

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 10:28:33 AM »
Lawsonia would have to get consideration.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 10:32:39 AM »
Quote from: Nigel Islam on January 12, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
Lawsonia would have to get consideration.

Very nice. I wish I knew more about Sagebrush.
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Mark Bourgeois

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 10:35:36 AM »
Homerphobia or homerphilia? I guess that depends on your perspective.

If you count NAF's declarations Deal has to go in somewhere around Redanman's Lehigh.

And didn't the Kingsley drumbeat start before Dismal's?
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 10:39:56 AM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on January 12, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
My top five based on historical evidence ranked according to age of inclusion. Not to be homerphobic but like Cher they only need one name.

1. Rustic
2. Lehigh
3. Beverly
4. Dismal
5. Kingsley

Those are for the hoi-polloi (albeit of the relatively sophisticated variety) -- for those who know/experience/can access a bit more than most of their brethren. For the more subtle variety, well, I can't imagine that Victoria National would've been on my radar except for homerphobia...

Peter
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 10:43:03 AM »
Quote from: Mark Bourgeois on January 12, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
Homerphobia or homerphilia? I guess that depends on your perspective.

If you count NAF's declarations Deal has to go in somewhere around Redanman's Lehigh.

And didn't the Kingsley drumbeat start before Dismal's?

Didn't Shivas love Rye?  That would have been my international choice right behind Cruden Bay. I joined Dismal before I had ever heard of Kingsley. Kingsley is the Dismal for people who don't like to travel.

Wolf Run got the Victoria crowd early. The Wolf runs silent but it runs deep.
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Mark Bourgeois

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 10:47:29 AM »
Yes Shivas did love Rye but NAF got his odes published in real places and launched an epic GCA membership drive. Not that there's not room for both.

What about Fernandina Beach?
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Mike Sweeney

Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 10:50:56 AM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on January 12, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
My top five based on historical evidence ranked according to age of inclusion. Not to be homerphobic but like Cher they only need one name.

1. Rustic
2. Lehigh
3. Beverly
4. Dismal
5. Kingsley

Perhaps someday you will play a course east of the Delaware River when you visit NYC and then you will include "Yale" on your list.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2014, 10:53:53 AM »
Oh God do I love Yale. I will always be in debt to their fine Pro and Super. It is up there with Bandon and Ballyneal in my book. 
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Nigel Islam

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2014, 11:01:52 AM »
Since you can now look at Jud's posts again I'm going throw out Spring Valley.
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Bart Bradley

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2014, 11:24:38 AM »
Other contenders:

Old Town
Pennard

Bart
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Terry Lavin

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2014, 11:57:06 AM »
Dismal and Kingsley are fairly well tied with breathless blustering about the joys of bunkered solitude but nothing, no nothing tops (cue the blue coated angels singing) Merion. At least until Philly Cricket Wissahickon opens up.

As for other contenders, Rivermonters get a bit carried away but anyplace that Mucci has played recently as a host or as a guest is worth a gush.
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Nigel Islam

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2014, 12:22:42 PM »
I think the ground rules keep changing, but Olympic and Olympia have a fair amount of treehouse membership.  Terry, I think at one time the website could have been www.meriongolfclubatlas.com ;D
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jeffwarne

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2014, 12:39:37 PM »
Palmetto

I'm a member,love the course, and I still think it's overrated on GCA.
If it was located in the New York MET area, it would rarely be talked about

Other home jobs (or courses that could be 10's but are given 11's here on GCA ;D ;D)
Dornoch
North Berwick
Deal
Wolf Point
Crystal Downs
NGLA
Merion
Seminole

a pretty good list to be on however ;) ;D
« Last Edit: January 12, 2014, 01:10:15 PM by jeffwarne »
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2014, 12:47:39 PM »
Quote from: Mark Bourgeois on January 12, 2014, 10:47:29 AM
Yes Shivas did love Rye but NAF got his odes published in real places and launched an epic GCA membership drive. Not that there's not room for both.


From discussions with a friend who is a member of both Deal and Rye, I gather that Rye is much more difficult to join, with a lengthy wait list.  

Either would be a great place to be a member.   Great courses, pleasant on site lodging, good food.  Deal is a more relaxed atmosphere, you can wear golf gear in the bar, while jacket and tie are de rigeur all the time at Rye.  

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Jay Flemma

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2014, 01:07:13 PM »
Shouldn;t the title of the thread be Homerphilic ir Homerphilia?  As in "We love our home" instead of "we don't like our home" as Homerphilic implies?

In the Greek doesn't "philic" = "love" and "phobic" means "doesn't like"?
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DMoriarty

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2014, 01:51:29 PM »
Dismal deserves two spots on any such list.  One for each course.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2014, 02:39:51 PM »
If you are going to put Lawsonia on there, I don't know how you don't also put Wild Horse on there, as MOI was about the first person on this site to taut both...  ;) ::) ;D

And, wasn't Apache Stronghold, Friars Head, and Cuscowilla along with Kingsley Club tauted in homerphilic ways when they were being built.  I guess that dates me on this site, huh?


In the modern-just or being built homer category 1998-2005:
Wild Horse
Apache
Talking Stick
Rustic
Cusco
Kingsley
Friars
Sebonack

Classic category, there are just so many to list with Lawsonia...
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Carl Nichols

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2014, 04:16:37 PM »
Hidden Creek? Chambers?
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Terry Lavin

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2014, 04:18:31 PM »
Chambers is a good call.
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Michael Whitaker

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2014, 04:36:05 PM »
A different take...

Outpost Club
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JR Potts

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2014, 04:38:13 PM »
No Chicago club receives a bigger slob fest on here than Olympia Fields.  It's a really good club made into a world's best by the promotion on this site.
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Ken Fry

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Re: Homerphobia. The great home clubs of GCA.
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2014, 04:46:25 PM »
Quote from: JR Potts on January 12, 2014, 04:38:13 PM

No Chicago club receives a bigger slob fest on here than Olympia Fields.  It's a really good club made into a world's best by the promotion on this site.


Isn't that the "Potts calling the kettle black?"  Cough, cough, Medinah, cough, cough...

Ken
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