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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Is an architect
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 01:54:22 PM »
Cliff it does not surprise me that you found this.  Kubrick is one of the most studied of directors. I could dispute some of this but I'm not going to watch the films again just to prove a point but e.g I don't recall any slow studied scenes in The Killing? And apart from the use of wide angled lenses to the point of distortion those 5 points could equally be describing key elements of Orson Welles's style, so they wouldn't necessarily help you spot a film as being in the Kubrick style.


But while there will always be some things replicated in each  Film or Golf Course, Kubrick like Fowler tried to come up with a fresh approach each time to suit the material he was working with. The differences in approach from film to film are much more marked than the similarities. This remains a rareity in approach.  Steven Sondheim's career springs to mind.


Others like Hitchcock, Tim Burton, and e.g. Raynor have perhaps wisely chose a style that suits their personality and by limiting the way they express themselves have maintained a high quality throughout their career.


(ps I think I'm done with this analogy.  Pat have you ever tried to listen all the way through Neil Young's album Trans?
Skip to about 12  minutes in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSNQhLm1V84  ;D )  
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is an architect
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2013, 02:02:59 PM »
Tony,

Electronically altering one's voice for one song doesn't change Neil Young's distinctive voice and body of work

Sean_A

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Re: Is an architect
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2013, 02:05:34 PM »
Tony/Sean -

Recognizing a style is not the same thing as being able to define a style. We recognize faces, personalities and golf course styles everyday, but we are incapable (at least I am) of defining how we do that.

Some styles are harder to pick up on than others. And certainly styles evolve. About Fowler, I've only played Walton Heath. But I suspect there are resemblances among his courses. More to the point, I think it unlikely (if not inconceivable) that he started new design projects without benefiting from or being influenced by his prior work.

Bob

Bob

Okay, if you wish, try to define Fowler's style.  I sure can't get my head around what he did and its the main reason I admire him as an architect.

So far as Neil goes, its his voice which is by far his main defining style.  The man has put out far too much work to be pigeon holed musically, lyrically or by musicianship.  I can understand if someone wants to make an argument about his best or most popular work, but not as a body in total. 

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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is an architect
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2013, 02:20:51 PM »
without a style a prisoner of the land ?

CAN'T YOU MORONS READ


I was listening to Willie Nelson, Neil Young and Ray Charles and was struck by the distinctive nature of their voices, an earmark of their style.

One only has to hear a few notes to know who's voice is producing those sounds.

Then I thought about architecture and distinctive qualities that identify styles and the producer of those styles.

Is an architect without a style equivalent to a carpet layer ?

http://youtu.be/x8A9Y1Dq_cQ

http://youtu.be/u925g6CgKuw

http://youtu.be/9gKwjxF7ilI

Jason Thurman

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Re: Is an architect
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2013, 02:38:34 PM »
Only if you don't believe that the architecture style of minimal shaping is a style in and of itself.



Pat, can you name three examples of architects who do not have a style? I think it'll make it easier for the rest of us dummies to understand what you're trying to ask.
"There will always be haters. That’s just the way it is. Hating dudes marry hating women and have hating ass kids." - Evan Turner

Some of y'all have never been called out in bold green font and it really shows.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is an architect
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2013, 03:04:54 PM »
Only if you don't believe that the architecture style of minimal shaping is a style in and of itself.



Pat, can you name three examples of architects who do not have a style?

I think it'll make it easier for the rest of us dummies to understand what you're trying to ask.

If you don't understand the question/issue at this point, no amount of additional explanations will help.

Did you bother to read the list I provided ?
Here it is.

CB Macdonald
Seth Raynor
Charles Banks
AWT
FLYNN
ROSS
RTJ
Dick Wilson
J Nicklaus

Is there NO distinctive style in any of the above work ?

Jason Thurman

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Re: Is an architect
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2013, 03:18:18 PM »
You're struggling with reading comprehension, as usual.

I didn't ask for a list of architects WITH style. I'm asking for three architects WITHOUT style.
"There will always be haters. That’s just the way it is. Hating dudes marry hating women and have hating ass kids." - Evan Turner

Some of y'all have never been called out in bold green font and it really shows.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is an architect
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2013, 09:13:23 PM »
You're struggling with reading comprehension, as usual.

I didn't ask for a list of architects WITH style. I'm asking for three architects WITHOUT style.

I'm clearly aware of that.

But, first, answer my question about the architects I listed.

Do they have an individual style ?