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Steve Kline

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2013, 02:49:30 PM »
It's been really interesting reading this thread today. There is such a deep emotional and spiritual connection to the game that is so unique from any other sport because you can play it until you die, you can play it alone or with others, you can play it around the world, make friends from around the world or just have an acquaitance for a few hours, and you can take in some of the most breath taking scenery to be found any where.

Jason Wakefield

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2013, 03:00:00 PM »
It's been really interesting reading this thread today. There is such a deep emotional and spiritual connection to the game that is so unique from any other sport because you can play it until you die, you can play it alone or with others, you can play it around the world, make friends from around the world or just have an acquaitance for a few hours, and you can take in some of the most breath taking scenery to be found any where.

Well said Steve.

Andrew Buck

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2013, 03:09:21 PM »
It's been really interesting reading this thread today. There is such a deep emotional and spiritual connection to the game that is so unique from any other sport because you can play it until you die, you can play it alone or with others, you can play it around the world, make friends from around the world or just have an acquaitance for a few hours, and you can take in some of the most breath taking scenery to be found any where.

Spot on Steve.

In addition, for those of us who started early there is almost always strong connections with dad, mom grandpa, etc. 

Gary Slatter

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2013, 03:30:59 PM »
Good topic, one that's been with me since we left St Andrews a few years ago!    
  
I've just changed my meds, hoping citalopram will inspire me to enjoy the game again, altho the season is over here in Calgary.
Even went East and played Highlands and Cabot in Cape Breton, found the golf great but enjoyed the chowder more!

Played yesterday with three Pros 35 years younger than me - it took me 18 holes and the drive home to come to the conclusion that I need to move up to the 6300 yard tees - maybe that'll bring back the interest.   Yesterday while we were playing Gleneagles  (Cochrane Alberta) we all thought the scenery was outstanding, and we saw a chap just sitting on the bank watching the river flow and the mountains so close.  I thought I'd rather be sitting next to him than playing - maybe it takes a day more for the pills to kick in.
Gary Slatter
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Tim_Weiman

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2013, 03:48:54 PM »
Moving to Houston (for valid employment reasons) really killed my interest in playing golf. The weather in the summer months just makes me not want to play and, unfortunately, that has carried over into the winter months when Houston is actually really nice.

The good news is that I have actually now met some people outside of work and joined them for a Sunday morning game. In just a few weeks my attitude towards playing is much improved.
Tim Weiman

Greg Taylor

Re: Losing interest
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2013, 04:42:26 PM »
I got quite good when I was 12, off about 9, and one mdeal started bogey, par, bogey. It was cold and wet and I walked in and never played again until 15 years ago... since then haven't looked back.

Just wish I had the time to play tennis as well... one had to go and that was it.


Ken Moum

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2013, 07:44:22 PM »
Good topic, one that's been with me since we left St Andrews a few years ago!    
  
I've just changed my meds, hoping citalopram will inspire me to enjoy the game again, altho the season is over here in Calgary.
Even went East and played Highlands and Cabot in Cape Breton, found the golf great but enjoyed the chowder more!

Played yesterday with three Pros 35 years younger than me - it took me 18 holes and the drive home to come to the conclusion that I need to move up to the 6300 yard tees - maybe that'll bring back the interest.   Yesterday while we were playing Gleneagles  (Cochrane Alberta) we all thought the scenery was outstanding, and we saw a chap just sitting on the bank watching the river flow and the mountains so close.  I thought I'd rather be sitting next to him than playing - maybe it takes a day more for the pills to kick in.

More like two weeks, which were the longest two weeks of my life. FWIW, I quit them, and lived with the black cloud for two 'or three years. Then started on Bupropion SR, and the cloud is gone.

Re. the original question, I had a touchy back in my late 30s and quit almost completely for a few years. I could only play decently if I didn't care, and that wasn't good enough to keep my interest.

Then I met the woman who is now my wife. Our first date was Friday night couples golf. I started playing again and really haven't stopped since.

That was almost 25 years ago. After living together for almost five years, I asked her one winter if the Husband and Wife State Championship was a good enough reason to get married.

We finished sixth the next year, and never improved on that. But the August we spent 30 days in Scotland, played 26 times together, including six mixed comps. There's no one I'd rather spend time with on the golf course.

K
Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

Mark Molyneux

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2013, 08:25:43 PM »
About once every time out if I'm with someone, I'll turn to them at a par 3 and ask if I've ever mentioned that in 52 years I've never had a hole in one. Occasionally even by myself, I'll say it out loud. In those 52 years, the closest I ever came to calling it quits was during the mid 1980s when I was caught up in the throes of the yips. It wasn't fun KNOWING that I couldn't put the ball in the hole from 24 inches. So golf became a project. I read Golf Digest and I read the neuropsych journals. I talked things through with a pro or two or three I played with Sam Snead who was putting side saddle at the time and I was mortified when he told me, "I just can't watch you." Golf was NOT fun but it was still a challenge and a chance to see beautiful places and be with great people. I suffered. I putted left handed, left hand low, finger down the shaft, one way from outside 5 feet and another from inside 5 feet. I finally got to 45 putts a round and then 40 and then 36 and finally to a putting game that supports a fairly low handicap. I read about Ben Hogan wanting to value putts at a half stroke and I nodded. I understood.

I can understand someone saying that there's just too much going on in life. "I don't want to miss my kid growing up." "I lost my job." "I'm in school now." "Someone very close passed away." But as for a semi-permanent or permanent departure from the game? I can think of maybe a couple things:
1. The game became my job... usually spoken by golf professionals, scholarship athletes, or elite amateur players.
2. My body won't let me... bad back, knee replacements, melanoma survivors (I've only had three Mohs surgeries so I'm not quite there yet.)

I played at Range End with a 96 year old guy who had pared his golf back to 3 rounds a week "... unless it gets too cold". It was a high of 48 that day. I played Pine Valley with a good friend who put Pine Valley on his bucket list... he knew his cancer was inoperable and we played about 12 weeks before he passed away. Back in the day at Eagle Lodge, an older guy would be driven to the course by two women every Wednesday. He'd hit on the range and then putt for a while until the pro came in. Then they'd have a sandwich and a soda in the grille before the women would come back for him. Turns out they were his sisters and they'd drive him back to Norristown where he spent decades in a mental hospital. He had been a pretty good player in his day... John McDermott.

My last round this past weekend was at the 1895 vintage course at Philadelphia's Cricket Club. Every step I took on those fairways, I felt as though I was visiting with 118 years worth of friends in the game. I couldn't give this up unless I were forced to.

Did I mention I still don't have that hole in one?

Steve Lang

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2013, 08:40:53 PM »
Moving to Houston (for valid employment reasons) really killed my interest in playing golf. The weather in the summer months just makes me not want to play and, unfortunately, that has carried over into the winter months when Houston is actually really nice.

The good news is that I have actually now met some people outside of work and joined them for a Sunday morning game. In just a few weeks my attitude towards playing is much improved.

Tim,

Not going to let you get away with the Houston is too hot stuff... as an Ohio Yankee I don't argue its not hot, but its not unlike up north's forced hiatus for many.. and heck we have two northern summers (spring & fall) and one better than northern spring (winter)...

The invite to play The Woodlands some weekend with Ms Sheila is still open.. we'll play the front tees and heck if you need more comic relief, we'll lasso Sam Morrow to join us, or who knows, maybe even 1 or more of the McBride Clan could show if Holiday visit schedules intersect !

steve

ps. i stopped keeping score for a year or so 10 years ago.. but kept playing
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David Harshbarger

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2013, 08:45:44 PM »
About once every time out if I'm with someone, I'll turn to them at a par 3 and ask if I've ever mentioned that in 52 years I've never had a hole in one. Occasionally even by myself, I'll say it out loud. In those 52 years, the closest I ever came to calling it quits was during the mid 1980s when I was caught up in the throes of the yips. It wasn't fun KNOWING that I couldn't put the ball in the hole from 24 inches. So golf became a project. I read Golf Digest and I read the neuropsych journals. I talked things through with a pro or two or three I played with Sam Snead who was putting side saddle at the time and I was mortified when he told me, "I just can't watch you." Golf was NOT fun but it was still a challenge and a chance to see beautiful places and be with great people. I suffered. I putted left handed, left hand low, finger down the shaft, one way from outside 5 feet and another from inside 5 feet. I finally got to 45 putts a round and then 40 and then 36 and finally to a putting game that supports a fairly low handicap. I read about Ben Hogan wanting to value putts at a half stroke and I nodded. I understood.

I can understand someone saying that there's just too much going on in life. "I don't want to miss my kid growing up." "I lost my job." "I'm in school now." "Someone very close passed away." But as for a semi-permanent or permanent departure from the game? I can think of maybe a couple things:
1. The game became my job... usually spoken by golf professionals, scholarship athletes, or elite amateur players.
2. My body won't let me... bad back, knee replacements, melanoma survivors (I've only had three Mohs surgeries so I'm not quite there yet.)

I played at Range End with a 96 year old guy who had pared his golf back to 3 rounds a week "... unless it gets too cold". It was a high of 48 that day. I played Pine Valley with a good friend who put Pine Valley on his bucket list... he knew his cancer was inoperable and we played about 12 weeks before he passed away. Back in the day at Eagle Lodge, an older guy would be driven to the course by two women every Wednesday. He'd hit on the range and then putt for a while until the pro came in. Then they'd have a sandwich and a soda in the grille before the women would come back for him. Turns out they were his sisters and they'd drive him back to Norristown where he spent decades in a mental hospital. He had been a pretty good player in his day... John McDermott.

My last round this past weekend was at the 1895 vintage course at Philadelphia's Cricket Club. Every step I took on those fairways, I felt as though I was visiting with 118 years worth of friends in the game. I couldn't give this up unless I were forced to.

Did I mention I still don't have that hole in one?

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The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

astavrides

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2013, 09:02:48 PM »
About once every time out if I'm with someone, I'll turn to them at a par 3 and ask if I've ever mentioned that in 52 years I've never had a hole in one. Occasionally even by myself, I'll say it out loud. In those 52 years, the closest I ever came to calling it quits was during the mid 1980s when I was caught up in the throes of the yips. It wasn't fun KNOWING that I couldn't put the ball in the hole from 24 inches. So golf became a project. I read Golf Digest and I read the neuropsych journals. I talked things through with a pro or two or three I played with Sam Snead who was putting side saddle at the time and I was mortified when he told me, "I just can't watch you." Golf was NOT fun but it was still a challenge and a chance to see beautiful places and be with great people. I suffered. I putted left handed, left hand low, finger down the shaft, one way from outside 5 feet and another from inside 5 feet. I finally got to 45 putts a round and then 40 and then 36 and finally to a putting game that supports a fairly low handicap. I read about Ben Hogan wanting to value putts at a half stroke and I nodded. I understood.

I can understand someone saying that there's just too much going on in life. "I don't want to miss my kid growing up." "I lost my job." "I'm in school now." "Someone very close passed away." But as for a semi-permanent or permanent departure from the game? I can think of maybe a couple things:
1. The game became my job... usually spoken by golf professionals, scholarship athletes, or elite amateur players.
2. My body won't let me... bad back, knee replacements, melanoma survivors (I've only had three Mohs surgeries so I'm not quite there yet.)

I played at Range End with a 96 year old guy who had pared his golf back to 3 rounds a week "... unless it gets too cold". It was a high of 48 that day. I played Pine Valley with a good friend who put Pine Valley on his bucket list... he knew his cancer was inoperable and we played about 12 weeks before he passed away. Back in the day at Eagle Lodge, an older guy would be driven to the course by two women every Wednesday. He'd hit on the range and then putt for a while until the pro came in. Then they'd have a sandwich and a soda in the grille before the women would come back for him. Turns out they were his sisters and they'd drive him back to Norristown where he spent decades in a mental hospital. He had been a pretty good player in his day... John McDermott.

My last round this past weekend was at the 1895 vintage course at Philadelphia's Cricket Club. Every step I took on those fairways, I felt as though I was visiting with 118 years worth of friends in the game. I couldn't give this up unless I were forced to.

Did I mention I still don't have that hole in one?

Your posts are great, Mark. Hope we get to tee it up again someday.

Geoffrey_Walsh

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2013, 10:24:19 PM »
Thanks for everyone's thoughts and stories.  Threads like this demonstrate how GCA can be such a special place.

Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2013, 11:02:25 PM »
Wow.  Awesome thread.  Here at 8000 feet in the Rockies, our season has been over for a couple weeks.  That, and it doesn't really get rolling until June in some years.  So it's not at all difficult for me personally to stay interested in the game for a full season.  Of course, I got about 70 rounds in this year so some would say I'm deranged to begin with.
Don't play too much golf. Two rounds a day are plenty.

--Harry Vardon

Chip Gaskins

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2013, 11:09:52 PM »
4 rounds for me this year. just not as fun as it used to be sadly

Bill_McBride

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2013, 05:53:23 AM »
Mark Molyneux, there is hope.  In 2006 I made my first hole in one in the King's Putter in California, at age 64 after 50 years of playing golf.  My dad played for 60 years and never made one.  Keep the faith!

archie_struthers

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2013, 08:51:53 AM »
 :D :'( 8)

Don't give up , don't ever give up!  Golf is so much better than most any alternative . If you are playing bad , strap your bag on your back , walk and smell the roses, oops, the grass. Find some fun guys to play with, bet a few quid and go . It is the most debilitating experience at times , but I just played with a guy who shoots his age about fifty or sixty times a year . It's a wonderful game !

Lou_Duran

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2013, 12:06:10 PM »
Mark Molyneux, there is hope.  In 2006 I made my first hole in one in the King's Putter in California, at age 64 after 50 years of playing golf.  My dad played for 60 years and never made one.  Keep the faith!

And it was my pleasure to witness it.  A thing of beauty- with a driver and a tough wind, water right- that looked great from the moment it was struck.  Great advice, though I've been told more than once to take a few weeks off then quit.

Archie,

I know what would get me or any other contemplating such thoughts out of the doldrums, a round at Pine Valley!  Of course, like the commercial of the guy who has finished surfing the entire internet, after playing the best, what is left?

Dan Kelly

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2013, 12:23:43 PM »


Someone with greater skill than I should change "read a book" to "play golf."
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 12:28:51 PM by Dan Kelly »
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

George Pazin

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2013, 12:57:04 PM »




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Lots of powerful stories.

Mine isn't. Didn't really stop, just cut back a lot, mostly due to my son. I feel like if I'm not working, I should be with him, and if I'm not with him, I should be working. I'm going way out on a limb and guessing I'm not the only one that feels that way.

But playing less has made me really really enjoy those rare times I do get to play. Teed it up 4 times this summer, felt like I was Arnold Palmer. Or Jim Colton, take your pick.

Oh yeah, got my ace after playing for maybe 3 years and 50 rounds. If it makes you feel any better, haven't been too close too often since.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Jason Topp

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2013, 01:09:16 PM »
I never have completely lost interest.  When my kids were young, I played less and my game got worse year by year until my handicap was up to 16 and I was sick of it. 

In the middle of that winter my attitude had not changed.  Nonetheless, I found that when my mind wandered, it wandered to the game.  I decided I might as well embrace the game because for better or worse I was hooked.  I called a pro and started taking lessons. 

Brent Hutto

Re: Losing interest
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2013, 01:11:40 PM »
Oh yeah, got my ace after playing for maybe 3 years and 50 rounds. If it makes you feel any better, haven't been too close too often since.

You know, come to think I haven't been really close since getting mine almost a decade ago now. Before that I had caved in the side of hole before bouncing off the flagstick, had one literally hanging on the lip and had a couple others inside a foot.

Since that day at Tobacco Road I think the best I've done is maybe roll one over the lip and finish a couple feet away. Strange, that.

Dan Kelly

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2013, 02:06:12 PM »




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Thankfully, George, that end-of-the-Internet stuff was just a rumor. But instead of answering your riddle, I will give a clue: "... And you're not."

When is our tee time at Augusta? Augusta, Pennsylvania, I presume?
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 02:08:11 PM by Dan Kelly »
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Jeff Shelman

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2013, 04:36:30 PM »
While I dislike winter, living in a climate with snow I think keeps me from truly losing interest in the game.

Each fall, I'm usually ready to shut it down, but I'm very ready to get going again in the spring.

I'm kind of reaching the point being ready to pack my game away for the winter right now. I played last Saturday, but actually didn't play on Sunday even though the weather was good. This weekend isn't very nice and I'm not totally sure when I'm going to play again. I may play next Sunday in New Orleans when I'm there for work, but there's part of me think thinks spending part of Sunday in the Quarter having a few drinks might be more fun.

I'm sure I'm going to play some more before the end of the year, but the number will be limited.

Come spring, I'll be more than ready to get back out there.


Bob_Huntley

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2013, 09:35:01 PM »
Mark Molyneux, there is hope.  In 2006 I made my first hole in one in the King's Putter in California, at age 64 after 50 years of playing golf.  My dad played for 60 years and never made one.  Keep the faith!

Mark Molyneux, there is hope.  In 2006 I made my first hole in one in the King's Putter in California, at age 64 after 50 years of playing golf.  My dad played for 60 years and never made one.  Keep the faith!
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Bill,

It was at the Stevinson Ranch, I remember it well, I was in the group behind you but did see the shot and it was a very good good one indeed. A couple of months later I had an ace that helped me shooting my age, 76.

I am afraid it has been all down hill since then. I have played fewer than a hundred or so holes for the past three years but decided that I did not want to go gentle into that good night. I have recently decided to hit some balls every couple of days. I have never lost interest and search the magazines for the one true swing.

Bob

Steve Okula

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Re: Losing interest
« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2013, 01:33:57 PM »
True story about a hole in one. In the early nineties I was working at National Golf Club, then a new course on the Mediterranean coast of Turkey. Now the area is a big golf resort, with over a dozen courses and a multitude of hotels, restaurants, bars and discos, but back then there was only our course and a couple of hotels.

There was an Irish golf pro working there, David Kearney, who besides lessons to tourists, was initiating into golf a few of the local youths who were employed at the club. One such young man, Mustafa, worked full time shining shoes, which business in those days could be slow. The course wasn't always busy, so on slow days he would solicit the other staff for shoe shines. Every time one of us walked by in the course of the day he would ask, "Shine?" It may have been the only word he knew in English, and it eventually became like white noise in the background.

Mustafa started taking golf lessons from David, and for several months worked away on the driving range. The club rulle was that beginners weren't allowed on the golf course proper until they had the pro's approval that their game and knowledge of the rules and etiquette was to a sufficient level. David and I used to go out to play most afternoons, and for months Mustafa was pestering David to join us, and David always politely refusing, saying words to the effect of, "You're not ready. You need to be able to get the ball in the air. "

Finally one evening, when the course was fairly empty, David relented and let Mustafa joined us, and he was fairly trembling with excitement at his first ever round. The first hole, a narrow par five, Mustafa took about 15 strokes, or so many nobody kept count. All well and normal.

We come to the second hole, a par 3 over water to a peninsula green, playing about 140 yards. Mustafa smooths an 8-iron in there, one hop and into the hole.

Second hole of golf he ever played.
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the big wheel turns by the grace of God.