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Steve_Roths

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Cover pic of N. Zealand
« on: September 17, 2013, 04:16:32 PM »
What course is that on the cover of GCA.com?
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David_Elvins

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 04:57:16 PM »
Its a secret.
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Jimmy Muratt

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 05:04:45 PM »
Perhaps Mike DeVries' new project, King Island Links?  It's great to see Mike get a site like that to work on, the routing looks fantastic.
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Adam Lawrence

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2013, 05:09:03 PM »
Quote from: Jimmy Muratt on September 17, 2013, 05:04:45 PM
Perhaps Mike DeVries' new project, King Island Links?  It's great to see Mike get a site like that to work on, the routing looks fantastic.

It does. But it's in Australia.
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Peter Ferlicca

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 05:20:42 PM »
It has to be Tom Doaks new course up in Mangawhai Heads, New Zealand.  Looks pretty darn good.  I love how he just blends all the holes together.  
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Steve_Roths

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 05:22:06 PM »
So I am guessing this is the new Doak project.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 05:44:48 PM »
Isn't this the Chinese knock-off of chambers bay?
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Sean Leary

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 06:01:34 PM »
Quote from: Martin Bonnar on September 17, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
Isn't this the Chinese knock-off of chambers bay?
F.

Sure looks like Chambers Bay. Who da thunk Doak copying RTJII  ;)
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Jimmy Muratt

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 06:19:10 PM »
The free flowing common areas remind me of Doak's recent work at Dismal.  So many of the holes there flow together throughout the land as fairways, green surrounds and tees flow openly.
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William_G

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 08:04:45 PM »
+1

Chamber's Bay look alike without the slope from infill.
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Ash Towe

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 08:33:05 PM »
I think Peter is correct.

Hopefully Tom will be on board and tell us all about the project.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 11:28:51 PM »
Yes, that's Tara-Iti Golf Club, our new project in N.Z.  The eighth green is in the foreground -- a par-4 from the tee ground near the right horizon of the picture -- and the ninth green is tucked into the slot in the dunes to the left of that tee.  The isolated tree in the background is a macrocarpa that is to the left side of the eighteenth fairway, beyond the ridge that will be the clubhouse site.

Ran must have gotten the picture from Kye Goalby or from JoAnn Dost, since I have not sent out any of the course since we started.  We've completed seven holes, but are currently in a holding pattern on finishing the rest.

As far as comparisons to Chambers Bay, I don't know.  As at Dismal River [and Stone Eagle before it], what we are trying to do is connect the holes for the occasional golf cart and maintenance vehicles, while building as few paths as we possibly can.

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Jim Nugent

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 01:13:30 AM »
Tom, any ETA on Tara-Iti? 
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2013, 08:16:02 AM »
Where in NZ is Tara-Iti?
All the best
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Adam Lawrence

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 08:32:07 AM »
Northland. South of Mangawhai.
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Adam Lawrence

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Ran Morrissett

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 11:06:05 AM »
Here are two more mouth-watering photos courtesy of their Green Keeper CJ Kreuscher:


Looking at the ninth green from the first tee.


The par five fifth as it winds toward the Pacific.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 12:46:19 PM »
Tom,
Looks stunning. The chambers thing is just about that lone tree standing out there.
M.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 12:46:47 PM »
Quote from: Brian_S on September 18, 2013, 11:42:56 AM
Oh goodness. That is wonderful. Cross between Bandon, Friars and Chambers?

What type of grass?

It is not a cross between anything.  There's a lot of turf and a LOT of open, sandy area between the holes ... it is more open and sandy than any of the courses listed above, because we have to revegetate the dunes plants after clearing the pine trees, and we intend to do it as lightly as possible under the regulations, because we like the look we're getting.  We just want to stop the sand from blowing around too much.

The course is 100% fine fescue, tee to green.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2013, 02:46:36 PM »
For those thinking of relocating, here's a glimpse of the real estate market:

http://www.realestate.co.nz/residential/all/northland/kaipara/mangawhai-heads
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2013, 02:57:50 PM »
Quote from: Steve_ Shaffer on September 18, 2013, 02:46:36 PM
For those thinking of relocating, here's a glimpse of the real estate market:
http://www.realestate.co.nz/residential/all/northland/kaipara/mangawhai-heads
Plus there's already the Mangawhai Golf Club - http://www.mangawhaigolf.co.nz/golf-course
and the linksie looking Waipu Golf Club is just up the road - http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=56809.0;num_replies=19#top
More photos of Tara-Iti please.
All the best
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Keith Grande

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2013, 02:58:08 PM »
I'll be traveling to Australia and New Zealand next July...any chance course will be ready to go by then?
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2013, 03:25:30 PM »
Great to see this course come to life after seeing the site photos in this previous threads:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51651.0.html

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54334.0.html
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2013, 04:40:48 PM »
Quote from: Keith Grande on September 18, 2013, 02:58:08 PM
I'll be traveling to Australia and New Zealand next July...any chance course will be ready to go by then?

Only the seven holes that are now grassed.  The remainder of the course has not been shaped yet and won't be grassed until December-March, best case, so the full course will not be ready until the end of 2014.

There aren't many more photos to post because there are only seven holes grassed.  And I would like to keep some mystery about the course until it's done.  Note that my favorite holes to this point are #2, #3, #6, #8, #9, #10, #12, #15 and #18, and you are only seeing glimpses of two of them.  [Also note that I have a lot of favorite holes, which is a pretty good sign :) ]
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John Kirk

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2013, 05:06:03 PM »
Beautiful pictures.  I'd like to ask a question.

What is the elevation range between the highest and lowest point?  It looks like it may only be 75-100 feet, possibly less.   In general, I consider this a good thing.

(Note:  I did not intentionally wait for the 25th reply.)
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Dane Hawker

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Re: Cover pic of N. Zealand
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2013, 05:43:45 PM »
There is a really good photo on facebook by Joaan Dost.
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