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John Kavanaugh

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Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« on: August 10, 2013, 10:10:33 PM »
It's not pretty, is it?

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2013, 10:18:22 PM »
A strange thing happened to me today. I got my dry cleaning back and all I had were golf shirts but not only don't I have anywhere to golf, I don't even have my clubs.

Mac Plumart

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 10:28:03 PM »
It is not pretty, it is beautiful!! 

No clubs with you...just a bunch of golf shirts?  Go through the shirts, look at the logos, and remember the good times.

Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

RJ_Daley

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 10:33:42 PM »
 :'(
« Last Edit: August 11, 2013, 12:06:40 AM by RJ_Daley »
No actual golf rounds were ruined or delayed, nor golf rules broken, in the taking of any photographs that may be displayed by the above forum user.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 10:34:28 PM »
It is not pretty, it is beautiful!! 

No clubs with you...just a bunch of golf shirts?  Go through the shirts, look at the logos, and remember the good times.



Today I had a nice young gentleman ask me about the logo on my shirt, New South Wales to be exact, I was embarrassed to admit that it was a gift from my daughter and had never played there myself.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 10:42:19 PM »
I am not only an ex golfer, I am an ex golfer of poseur status. I immediately went out and purchased three shirts with buttons all the way to the bottom.  One other thing, is it possible to golf in boxers?  I can hardly walk ten blocks without becoming strangely intimate with the local of my junk. I can't find anywhere in the city that sells a simple brief.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 10:44:35 PM »
And the question "this is architecturally relevant HOW?" leaps past all others...

The only junk I want to consider lies between tee and fairway, not two doglegs~
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2013, 10:49:59 PM »
And the question "this is architecturally relevant HOW?" leaps past all others...

The only junk I want to consider lies between tee and fairway, not two doglegs~

Ron,

People who have nothing interesting to say should golf.  Why not give it a try?

Tim_Weiman

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2013, 11:08:29 PM »
Honestly,  I play very little golf these days.  Living in Houston just discourages playing golf in the summer.
Tim Weiman

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2013, 11:14:40 PM »
Perhaps Ron and people like him have an important role to play in the game that I had not fully embraced in my past life as a golfer. Who wouldn't want to play in under four hours with a closed minded boring douche? Perhaps it is the fact that many of us choose to play golf with interesting people of good company that we care little on how long it takes. Golf should be played with people we can't wait to vacate. No wonder I find myself not missing it.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2013, 11:16:33 PM by John Kavanaugh »

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 11:15:25 PM »
And the question "this is architecturally relevant HOW?" leaps past all others...

The only junk I want to consider lies between tee and fairway, not two doglegs~

Ron,

People who have nothing interesting to say should golf.  Why not give it a try?

You say so much that is interesting. It's a shame that you no longer golf.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 11:24:20 PM »
And the question "this is architecturally relevant HOW?" leaps past all others...

The only junk I want to consider lies between tee and fairway, not two doglegs~

Ron,

People who have nothing interesting to say should golf.  Why not give it a try?

You say so much that is interesting. It's a shame that you no longer golf.

I'm sure Wake Forest is a fine school. The use of an avatar is so 90's. I'm sure you are a nice guy but I just can't get past that big stupid looking face.  How about just a touch of subtlety?

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2013, 11:33:32 PM »
I'm sure Wake Forest is a fine school.

Finer since I left.

The use of an avatar is so 90's.

I loved that decade. Three of our children were born then.

I'm sure you are a nice guy but I just can't get past that big stupid looking face.  

Thanks for the compliment

How about just a touch of subtlety?

I'm robust by nature.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2013, 11:48:24 PM »
Ron,

Why did you force yourself into this thread?  I had an important, interesting look into the relationship that golf, it's architecture and culture plays in the life of people like me who are vital to the future of the game. Frankly, I don't give a damn if I ever play again because every time I tee it up it makes it possible for five guys like you to play on my coat tails. Thank you for making me realize that you are not worth the sacrifice.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2013, 12:04:56 AM »
Ron,

Why did you force yourself into this thread?  I had an important, interesting look into the relationship that golf, it's architecture and culture plays in the life of people like me who are vital to the future of the game. Frankly, I don't give a damn if I ever play again because every time I tee it up it makes it possible for five guys like you to play on my coat tails. Thank you for making me realize that you are not worth the sacrifice.

This is where you lose me, John. In the first place, I didn't force myself into the thread. When you created the thread in a rambling, incoherent way, you begged comment. If you had not wanted a comment, you would have made a cogent argument. In fact, even your thread-initiating question is banal-Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer? There are two answers that total two syllables and five letters.

In the second place, I don't ride on anyone's coat tails, nor do people like me. I'm sorry that people of your status in life have to worry about such dregs. There are days when I wonder what it would be like to belong to a higher echelon of society/income bracket, but I recognize that I am where I am for a reason.

I live by a creed when it comes to golf and golf trips, one that opens me up to barbs through calumny: As long as I'm the biggest prick in the group, we'll be all right. Therefore, I'm not a sacrifice for anyone.

John, I coach high school golfers, run a summer golf camp where my varsity kids acts as counselors for the day campers, volunteer on local golf association boards, write for a number of magazines and websites, photograph golf courses (making the images available to the club pros) and run a regional golf website. And I've NEVER written nor spoken the words "people like me who are vital to the future of the game."

tschüss
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

RJ_Daley

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No actual golf rounds were ruined or delayed, nor golf rules broken, in the taking of any photographs that may be displayed by the above forum user.

Pat Burke

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2013, 12:44:32 AM »
Quit after round three of second stage of Q School in 2001.
Did not touch clubs for 8 months, really didn't unpack the clubs for 8 months.
Played 6 pro ams in the fall, and didn't touch my clubs for nearly a year.

Played about 8 rounds in 2011 before going to first stage of Champions Tour qualifying.
Played a practice round, and four rounds of qualifying and was exhausted :D
Riding a cart for good ness sakes!!!

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2013, 05:15:31 AM »
Quit after round three of second stage of Q School in 2001.
Did not touch clubs for 8 months, really didn't unpack the clubs for 8 months.
Played 6 pro ams in the fall, and didn't touch my clubs for nearly a year.

Played about 8 rounds in 2011 before going to first stage of Champions Tour qualifying.
Played a practice round, and four rounds of qualifying and was exhausted :D
Riding a cart for good ness sakes!!!

Pat,

Why is this typical for great players like yourself?

Mark Bourgeois

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2013, 07:45:54 AM »
Try Mick Simmons recently relocated to Pitt St. If they don't have briefs they might have something approximate. Be sure to post pictures!  ;D

It's one thing to give up the game voluntarily, another to be forced due to illness, injury or incarceration. To be forced into it for family harmony is pure misery. All you can do is keep your mouth shut, smile never complain, and hope the karma payback comes....some day. For me that was 12 years of misery followed by three years ecstasy. It can happen, have a little faith.
Charlotte. Daniel. Olivia. Josephine. Ana. Dylan. Madeleine. Catherine. Chase. Jesse. James. Grace. Emilie. Jack. Noah. Caroline. Jessica. Benjamin. Avielle. Allison.

Tom Fagerli

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2013, 08:10:52 AM »
I have been forced on three occasions to "step back" due to injury- both knees and back. It was misery. I have friends who were solid club players that have quit playing due to work, lack of interest, etc. I feel so sad for them. The joy and elation I felt with I birdied my first hole played after my recent back surgery is indescribable.
Well, now that I type this and think about it, I truly never stepped back-I was just a golfer who couldn't play golf. I hope I never "step back".

Carl Rogers

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2013, 08:45:35 AM »
back in my college days, i hardly played for a few years for a lack of:
- time (or so I thought)
- poor playing options
- economize on expenses

As I approach 60, I regret that now.
I decline to accept the end of man. ... William Faulkner

William_G

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2013, 09:14:56 AM »
A strange thing happened to me today. I got my dry cleaning back and all I had were golf shirts but not only don't I have anywhere to golf, I don't even have my clubs.
can't remember the last time I dry cleaned anything golf related  ::)

maybe you need to think of golf as more mainstream and as something you don't need to detach from your life, lol
It's all about the golf!

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2013, 09:31:52 AM »
JK - A few thoughts...

Why have you "stepped back?"

You DRY CLEAN your golf shirts! You really must have more money than good sense!

"Golf" should never be used as a verb.  ::)

Do you only wear golf shirts to show off the logos?

"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2013, 09:56:16 AM »
JK - A few thoughts...

Why have you "stepped back?"

You DRY CLEAN your golf shirts! You really must have more money than good sense!

"Golf" should never be used as a verb.  ::)

Do you only wear golf shirts to show off the logos?



I've been stuck in a hotel for three weeks participating in a very successful medical procedure. I sent my clothes out to be dry cleaned because that is all I knew how to do. I only wear golf shirts because that is all I own until when during this trip I bought a real shirt because I grew tired of looking like a golfer. This is how I discovered that dressing like a golfer when you are not golfing has been a mistake I had no idea I had made my entire life. Now that I have bought some real clothes I need to muster up the courage to untuck. Baby steps.

I even went jogging in Central Park this morning. That didn't go well at all.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2013, 09:58:01 AM by John Kavanaugh »

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Have you ever stepped back from being a golfer?
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2013, 10:28:38 AM »
Ahh... that explains the photo with Sweeney.

My wife clued me into the fact that I should wear "real clothes" when away from the course. After losing 30lbs I find it much easier to untuck. Before I felt I looked like someone just trying to hide the lard.
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)