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[MCirba]

Here is a link to the layout to be used for 2022 US Open on Gil Hanse's website


It looks like that they are going to use the short par 3!

www.hansegolfdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/The-Country-Club-Routing.png

Ben,

Interestingly, that little par three was called "Redan". 

[PCCraig]

Wow...that routing map for 2022 is awesome. Thanks for posting.


They are really moving the tee back on #1...holy cow that must be at least 50 yards?


I think the combined fairway on #3 and #5 is neat...kind of a bummer to remove #4. In my view that is a much more interesting hole than the drop shot par-3, member #12.


Is the practice range still going to be on the member's 9th during the tournament? They used to have a big tee there in front of the member's tee that could accommodate a range. Maybe that was only built for the Ryder Cup? Although it was still there 10 years ago.


That tee on members #11 is huge. Are they also going to use it as a back tee for the par-5, member's 14th?


The 11th hole on the composite course...maybe Brad knows this...are there still a bunch of trees between it and the previous hole? That new way back tee is going to be pretty brutal. It always required a bit of a snap hook off the tee, but it seems now to be even tighter along the tree line?


The new back tees on #16 and #18 are probably good ideas.

[Brad Tufts]

Answers based on looking at the map, and my convo the other day...

It looks like the idea on #1 is to go back to the edge of grass there...so the putting green gets shifted more onto what was once the M#10 tee per the Hanse plan.

The combo fairway on M#3/M#5 is more because the carry from the new back tee on M#5/C#4 over the hill containing the forward tee will be prohibitive for some...the combined fairway is a bailout with less carry.

Not sure about the range, but seems plausible that it would be in the same place as before.

I think the plan on the M/C#14 is to have a tee to the right of that new green tee for M#11/C#8 on the Hanse Plan...it would basically fire over the M#10 green to 14 fairway.  I think using that huge new green tee on the Plan for #14 would put the new tees for C#11 in the line of fire.

I agree with you Pat on the C#11/Primrose#1 tee ball.  That tee shot has always been awkward, and I would have to think it would be accompanied by tree removal.  Maybe more distance overall allows for more room to move a ball around the trees?  Or maybe it forces a shorter tee ball with a 3w and a long approach?  My two trips around the Composite for the 2009 Mass. Amateur on that hole were useless...overcooked R->L drive, chip down the fairway, wedge to the green, two-putt bogey.

For me, the setup of the dropshot par three will be curious...the current tee is like 135 max, and you can't see the green from there!  Do you move the tee uphill and left onto Fireman's patio?  They don't own the land in the corner between M#11green and that tee more than several yards.  I suppose they could make a new tee and a level hole teeing from somewhere on the Primrose hole that goes left from the par three green...but that would be an entirely different angle, level shot, and a long walk from the par five green.  If it stays at 125-130, I foresee some nasty pins about 18" from the collar...

[Alex Miller]

Glad to have my armchair instincts confirmed! 


Thanks for posting that layout, Ben. Looks like TCC will provide plenty of challenge for the players.

[SPDB]

Unless the intent is to make the pros shape their tee balls, the one thing these modifications would seem to dictate is tree removal, which we can all agree is a good thing. The only really substantive change seems to be at the green-end on #1. Based on the green shading, it looks like they're expanding the front of the green and relocating a bunker to the rear, which I believe is how it was historically presented.

[Amol Yajnik]

Answers based on looking at the map, and my convo the other day...

It looks like the idea on #1 is to go back to the edge of grass there...so the putting green gets shifted more onto what was once the M#10 tee per the Hanse plan.

The combo fairway on M#3/M#5 is more because the carry from the new back tee on M#5/C#4 over the hill containing the forward tee will be prohibitive for some...the combined fairway is a bailout with less carry.

Not sure about the range, but seems plausible that it would be in the same place as before.

I think the plan on the M/C#14 is to have a tee to the right of that new green tee for M#11/C#8 on the Hanse Plan...it would basically fire over the M#10 green to 14 fairway.  I think using that huge new green tee on the Plan for #14 would put the new tees for C#11 in the line of fire.

I agree with you Pat on the C#11/Primrose#1 tee ball.  That tee shot has always been awkward, and I would have to think it would be accompanied by tree removal.  Maybe more distance overall allows for more room to move a ball around the trees?  Or maybe it forces a shorter tee ball with a 3w and a long approach?  My two trips around the Composite for the 2009 Mass. Amateur on that hole were useless...overcooked R->L drive, chip down the fairway, wedge to the green, two-putt bogey.

For me, the setup of the dropshot par three will be curious...the current tee is like 135 max, and you can't see the green from there!  Do you move the tee uphill and left onto Fireman's patio?  They don't own the land in the corner between M#11green and that tee more than several yards.  I suppose they could make a new tee and a level hole teeing from somewhere on the Primrose hole that goes left from the par three green...but that would be an entirely different angle, level shot, and a long walk from the par five green.  If it stays at 125-130, I foresee some nasty pins about 18" from the collar...

I played TCC for the first time yesterday.  Due to the recent work by Hanse and his crew (including GCA member Jaeger Kovich), we didn't get to play 4 holes on the main course: 2, 12, 16 and 18.  Main #12 appears to be #9 on the routing posted, and that green as well as all of the surrounding bunkers were recently rebuilt.  There are some really interesting coutours in the green now that will result in some very interesting pins.  There is a front left section in particular that looks incredibly small, but would be fascinating as above a 110-120 yard shot. I can't tell you whether they moved the tees at all from where they were in the past though.


Other changes that have been made per the member and caddies in our group:
Bunkers expanded to the left of the first fairway, which will play as a 495 yard par 4.
New tee on #2 so that it can play in the 230 yard range as a par 3
New tee on #16 so that it can play about 210 yards (and that green is so small!)
Expanded fairway bunkers on the left of 18, along with redoing the bunker at the front of the 18th green.  The front edge of the green on 18 was also expanded forward towards the bunker edge, so that green will increase in size a little bit.

[PCCraig]

Where is the 210 yard tee on #16? In the middle of 15 fairway?


I can't even imagine how hard #2 would be as a 230 yard par-3...straight uphill to a small green that always played as one of the firmest spots on the entire golf course. Maybe it's a five iron for most tour players, I suppose.

[Amol Yajnik]

Where is the 210 yard tee on #16? In the middle of 15 fairway?


I can't even imagine how hard #2 would be as a 230 yard par-3...straight uphill to a small green that always played as one of the firmest spots on the entire golf course. Maybe it's a five iron for most tour players, I suppose.

Look at the routing map posted and note the green square that is near the 15th green, that will be the new tee for 16.


It seems like 3 of the par 3s will play exceptionally difficult, and then there will be #9 which will be the short par 3 in the mix.