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Neil Davis

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Tree Management Plans
« on: June 16, 2013, 12:06:19 PM »
I'm looking for some examples of long-term (5 yr) tree management plans or policies that have been adopted at clubs.  Also, who generally prepares something this?  The green committee, an architect, an arborist?  Thank you.

David Bartman

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 01:46:23 PM »
It usually starts out with a green committee deciding to have a Master or Long Term plan for their course.  Included in most of these plans are some redesign, maybe green resurfacing, bunker work, and tree removal.   A combination of an architect and arborist usually implements a plan but a shade study is traditionally taken by some service.  I think our club used Arborcom.  Here are a few companies to check out

http://www.arborcom.ca/intro.html

http://www.golfcoursearboristtreeservice.com/

http://treeanalysis.com/process.html

Still need to play Pine Valley!!

Neil Davis

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2013, 09:07:57 AM »
Thanks, David!  Does anyone know of any published examples of a club's long term plan?

David Bartman

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JSlonis

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2013, 12:54:17 PM »
Neil,

I am the current Green Chairman at Tavistock CC (Haddonfield NJ). We undertook a long term tree management program about 7 years ago. Although I wasn't chair at the time it started, I was involved with getting it off the ground and sold to the membership.  

We first started the process during our planning for our Restoration Master Plan and put it together with our architect Jim Nagle as well as with Dave Oatis from the USGA Green Section.

Our course is a classic Philadelphia area parkland course that had been grossly overplanted with White Pines and other types during the 1960-70's.  We put together a comprehensive report and plan and really tried to educate our membership on the merits of such a program.  We have completed a large majority of the work but still have more to finish.  Although we still get the occasional bitching from a certain segment of golfers, by and large, the program as been well received.  Our course is in the best condition as it has ever been, we've opened up some beautiful vistas throughout the course and the overall playability is much better.  

The common complaint we always got was that we were making the course too easy and you'll come to realize that's just a very silly comment made by uneducated members in regard to tree removal.  The average club member is simply not good enough to have any real scoring difference even with a more open design. It might be slightly easier for the better players but even then, that's not always the case. The scoring during our Club Championship qualifying rounds this year was the highest I can remember and we have less trees on the course then we had 50 years ago.

As a final tip, I think it is extremely beneficial to have a consulting architect or someone like Dave Oatis come in and speak to the entire membership about this issue.  It adds another level of credit to the Green Chair/Committee in selling such a program and goes along way in the education process of the members.

Good luck
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Doug Wright

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 12:46:16 PM »
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 01:39:46 PM »
Neil
What is your position on the trees at your club? (love em or hate em or inbetween)

I think it is valuable to have an architect help, in part because you never know how they may improve the golf.
A tree specialist alone doesn't consider the golf in the same manner.

Cheers
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Mark McKeever

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 02:45:05 PM »
Paging Brad.

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Howard Riefs

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 02:51:37 PM »
google is your friend


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Michael Blake

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2013, 03:25:59 PM »
I would PM Kris Shreiner to give you some insight from the perspective of an arborist who specializes in golf courses.

Robert Kimball

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2013, 05:18:51 PM »
Doug, you read my mind. I think Dunlop still lurks here and posts on occaision. Here's his website:  http://www.dunlopwhite.com/www.dunlopwhite.com/Restoration_and_Tree_Management.html

I'd love to hear about Old Town's restoration. I heard the club had a quite a knowledgeable visitor watching the final round of the Masters in the grill room.

-- Rob

John Jeffreys

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Re: Tree Management Plans
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2013, 05:52:51 PM »
Sunseeker is an excellent app that is 8.99 and will show you the path of the sun on the longest, shortest and current day of the year. It is great for showing you which trees need to go in order to provide sunlight to your greens in the critical hours of the day that vary depending on your region.