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Bill_McBride

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2013, 10:20:47 PM »
Too bad our President is out there playing golf instead of working for the country...o, was that politically incorrect...my apologies

Nice.  You never took off a weekend for golf?   I know first hand that's bull shit!

noonan

Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2013, 11:33:18 PM »
Dick,

That is perfectly fine, just not on my golf course.

The only possible exception would be Ron Paul. The rest can go play Lincoln Park; let them get the full taste of what egregious fiscal mismanagement looks like.

Maybe we can arrange a drone strike on U.S. soil. 

 ;D ;D

Scott Warren

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2013, 03:47:10 AM »
It's funny how folks with brains put them aside when they discuss certain topics.

Most politicians are neither as good or as horrific as their most passionate constituents claim.

God forbid someone with a high-pressure job takes time out every now and then to clear their head.

Dean Stokes

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2013, 08:31:37 AM »
It's funny how folks with brains put them aside when they discuss certain topics.

Most politicians are neither as good or as horrific as their most passionate constituents claim.

God forbid someone with a high-pressure job takes time out every now and then to clear their head.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2013, 09:00:48 AM by Dean Stokes »
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cary lichtenstein

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2013, 09:20:27 AM »
Too bad our President is out there playing golf instead of working for the country...o, was that politically incorrect...my apologies

Nice.  You never took off a weekend for golf?   I know first hand that's bull shit!
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I took plenty of time off to play golf but

I was never President, but if I was, I might not be the best ever, but I'd be way better than this guy. There is a middle...something our combative, anti-everything And everyone who has had success in their lives is against.

And I'd put my job way before golf, I'd bring the country together instead of apart, I'd declare war on cancer, I'd drill baby drill and make us energy exporters, I'd give one of the Dakotas to Israel, drop a few bunker busters into Irans nuclear plants, make English necessary for citizenship, allowmabortions, not allow machine guns, 30  bullet clicks, assault rifles,
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Tim Martin

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2013, 09:29:22 AM »
Too bad our President is out there playing golf instead of working for the country...o, was that politically incorrect...my apologies

Nice.  You never took off a weekend for golf?   I know first hand that's bull shit!
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I took plenty of time off to play golf but

I was never President, but if I was, I might not be the best ever, but I'd be way better than this guy. There is a middle...something our combative, anti-everything And everyone who has had success in their lives is against.

And I'd put my job way before golf, I'd bring the country together instead of apart, I'd declare war on cancer, I'd drill baby drill and make us energy exporters, I'd give one of the Dakotas to Israel, drop a few bunker busters into Irans nuclear plants, make English necessary for citizenship, allowmabortions, not allow machine guns, 30  bullet clicks, assault rifles,

Cary-That's quite a platform. I gotta say I'm on the fence about your potential candidacy.  ;) :o

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2013, 09:36:39 AM »
@Cary

Do I presume you will require the Speaker of the House to adhere to your guidelines concerning golf and give up his Burning Tree membership?


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/john-boehner-burning-tree-lobby
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Mark Saltzman

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2013, 09:55:00 AM »
More fucking politics on GCA.  Maybe this can get this thread back on track.  Some images of The Floridian...


Excellent practice facilities stocked with Pro-Vs.




Clubhouse




The first hole is a very narrow and long par-4 with staggered bunkers in the fairway that are beyond the reach of most golfers.  This is the view of the approach to a typical Floridian green -- large and softly contoured.




The par-3s, as a set, are a weak spot for the golf course.  None of the holes are bad, but none are overly interesting either.  This hole plays a little over 200 yards to an angled green.  The third is a very long par-4 with ample width.




The 4th is the best par-3 on the course, thanks mostly to the green, which is three-levelled and offers a very difficult pin on the tiny upper tier (pictured).





The par-5s are all 'gettable' but require a golfer be on his game.  This first par-5 demands the golfer carry the bunker on the left as tee shots pushed right will find deep bunkers that make reaching the green in 3 a challenge.



The 5th green is massive and very tilted.




The 6th is a very driveable par-4 (241 yards to the pin when we played it).  A slope toward the water is hard to see from the tee but obvious near the green and can divert good tee shots to a watery grave.




The 7th is another long-ish par-5 where precision on the lay-up is rewarded.  This small and angled green is protected right by a deep bunker and left by a steep run-off.  Laying-up to the wide side leaves a very intimidating approach (as pictured).




The 8th is the shortest par-3 on the course and struck us as generally similar to Augusta's 12th.




The 9th and 10th are demanding par-4s, though both are somewhat forgettable.

The 11th is a demanding test, though again, the bunkers were out of reach for me.




Another Sunday pin!




The 12th, a mid-length par-3, is the least interesting hole on the course.  The 13th is a very reachable par-5 with a very demanding tee shot.  Golfers wishing to go for the green in two must consider a cleverly placed bunker 25 yards short of the green.





The 14th, a long-par4, is a severe test of driving.  Yes, playing near the water is rewarded with a preferred angle, but the corridor is too narrow for anyone to aim away from the centre.




The 15th is another reachable par-5 with a demanding tee shot.  Again, subtle slopes with take seemingly well-struck shots away from the fairway and into water.




The 17th (finally) brings the golfer to the water.  Most golfers will choose to lay-up between the hazard and the bunkers, though depending on wind/tee played, the option to go for the green may be available.







The 18th is the only hole with the intercoastal truly in play and man is it intimidating! The hole plays into the wind and near 500 yards (par-4) from the back markers. 




Curiously, playing near the water leaves a more difficult angle of approach.





Sam Morrow

Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2013, 10:22:02 AM »
I'm not gonna go the political route, I will say that Jim Crane owns the Astros and brought back the retro logo. The 2013 squad could be the worst team in major league history though.

V. Kmetz

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2013, 11:00:09 AM »
And be in the American League?  God that ain't right.

In some threads around the Phoenix Open and the Super Bowl, I tended to drift into tangents about how sports have gotten so disposable and here's a perfect example of the thought

American league, national league... inter-league games every day...more Wild Cards...false outrage and censure over steroids...Marlins vacuum out and vacuum in a competitive rosters for half seasons at a time...Who care who roots for whom and what familial, regional, traditionally competitive bonds exist, if another buck can be made make it... Free agency?  What a joke for fans of a particular team...in shorter and shorter bands of seasons, how can you possibly root for Yankees or Red Sox with a straight face...you take Clemens this year, I'll get him next...Wade Boggs, Johnny Damon...now Youklis..."I'm a Red sox for life?"  bullshit, you're a multi-millionaire for life...stuff that crap back in your agent's mouth where it came from.  In this small, trivial, meaningless case, I know he's telling the sentimental truth and I'd prefer he do that then tell a lie, but...horsefeathers really.

Baseball, once with a primacy among all American sports, has decayed and decayed and decayed faster and faster than anything once so good.  Baseball has gotten slower, more technical, more advertising, more expensive, more ubiquitous, and much, much more boring.  Oh sure, there are still fine exhibitions every day of great athletic skill and competitive prowess, but it's harder and harder to get there.  Astros in the american League?  ridiculous?

If you REALLY like baseball, then you should root for your "favorite" team to finish in the second tier every season.  the Mets are, and have been for 3 years, in a perfect position if you actually like baseball.  The games are cheaper to attend, better seats are available for a healthy cut off their original inflated offerings...and not too many yahoos are there to disturb your time.  It's perfect for actually enjoying a baseball game.  If they win, and make playoff noise and get big name FAs, you won't see me anywhere near Citi Field.

cheers

vk
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Rick Shefchik

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2013, 11:47:37 AM »


I saw the similarity to Augusta National #12 immediately; I wonder how many Gary Player courses have a version of this hole?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2013, 11:56:32 AM »
Thanks for the pic Mark. Gotta wonder how many balls POTUS rinsed.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Brian Colbert

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2013, 01:08:39 PM »
Per a golf channel report, Tiger has joined Mr. President for his round today. The part I found most interesting about the report is that Tiger was at the range warming up with Butch Harmon before the president arrived.

Cool day for golf regardless of your political affiliation.

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2013, 01:44:30 PM »


I saw the similarity to Augusta National #12 immediately; I wonder how many Gary Player courses have a version of this hole?

Fazio completely redid the course in 2011, included re routing several holes. The course was grassed with Tifgrand and mini verde greens. A VAST improvement from the old, Player course.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2013, 01:51:46 PM »
More fucking politics on GCA.  Maybe this can get this thread back on track.  Some images of The Floridian...



"...back on track?"    C'mon Mark, this thread was "fucking politics" from the title forward!   What part of "President Obama" did you not understand?   ;D

If you don't like the occasional reasonably good natured political thread, it's easy, just don't open them!

cary lichtenstein

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2013, 08:19:00 PM »
Too bad our President is out there playing golf instead of working for the country...o, was that politically incorrect...my apologies

Nice.  You never took off a weekend for golf?   I know first hand that's bull shit!
[/quote

I took plenty of time off to play golf but

I was never President, but if I was, I might not be the best ever, but I'd be way better than this guy. There is a middle...something our combative, anti-everything And everyone who has had success in their lives is against.

And I'd put my job way before golf, I'd bring the country together instead of apart, I'd declare war on cancer, I'd drill baby drill and make us energy exporters, I'd give one of the Dakotas to Israel, drop a few bunker busters into Irans nuclear plants, make English necessary for citizenship, allowmabortions, not allow machine guns, 30  bullet clicks, assault rifles,

Cary-That's quite a platform. I gotta say I'm on the fence about your potential candidacy.  ;) :o

You're on the fence about my potential candidacy, shit, I'm on the fence too. I wouldn't vote for myself anyway, just having fun.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

cary lichtenstein

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2013, 08:20:29 PM »
@Cary

Do I presume you will require the Speaker of the House to adhere to your guidelines concerning golf and give up his Burning Tree membership?


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/john-boehner-burning-tree-lobby

Yes, all male clubs suck, my platform will require a back room for pole dancers and a Chip N dale room for the gals!!!!!!!!!!
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Howard Riefs

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2013, 09:32:59 PM »
Per a golf channel report, Tiger has joined Mr. President for his round today. The part I found most interesting about the report is that Tiger was at the range warming up with Butch Harmon before the president arrived.

Cool day for golf regardless of your political affiliation.

They were initially supposed to play The Medalist but opted to play the Floridian instead.

Obama and Tiger played 18 holes together from 6,200 yards. Then Obama went nine more and Tiger headed home. Yes, he blew off the President.

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-tours-news/blogs/local-knowledge/2013/02/barack-obama-and-tiger-woods-play-first-round-of-golf-togeth.html

 
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Garland Bayley

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2013, 11:34:08 PM »
"I like the fact he loves golf," Harmon said. "Obviously he doesn't get to play very much. He said it was a real treat for him to come here with his best friends and have a chance to play. But he counts every shot. He doesn't like gimmes. He putts everything out. He counts all his penalty shots. He thinks about all his shots before he hits them. Some people might say to the President of the United States, 'Oh, just move it.' But that's not him. He loves the game and loves the game the way it's supposed to be played."

Maybe BO needs to play with AP so that AP can't go around making besmirching comments about presidential golf anymore. ;D

"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

RJ_Daley

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2013, 11:48:42 PM »
I wonder if the Prez is like other previous Presidents who have taken a little 'me' time to recreate and clear the cobwebs, in advance of making some momentus decision. 

I think many of us use this approach to step back before wading into something that requires a big decision.  I know I have.  Most of those times, it resulted in deciding not to take the most expediant path, and to go back and slug it out after being refreshed and renewed with what ever I may have been wrestling with as a decision.
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Rich Goodale

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2013, 10:30:08 AM »
And be in the American League?  God that ain't right.

In some threads around the Phoenix Open and the Super Bowl, I tended to drift into tangents about how sports have gotten so disposable and here's a perfect example of the thought

American league, national league... inter-league games every day...more Wild Cards...false outrage and censure over steroids...Marlins vacuum out and vacuum in a competitive rosters for half seasons at a time...Who care who roots for whom and what familial, regional, traditionally competitive bonds exist, if another buck can be made make it... Free agency?  What a joke for fans of a particular team...in shorter and shorter bands of seasons, how can you possibly root for Yankees or Red Sox with a straight face...you take Clemens this year, I'll get him next...Wade Boggs, Johnny Damon...now Youklis..."I'm a Red sox for life?"  bullshit, you're a multi-millionaire for life...stuff that crap back in your agent's mouth where it came from.  In this small, trivial, meaningless case, I know he's telling the sentimental truth and I'd prefer he do that then tell a lie, but...horsefeathers really.

Baseball, once with a primacy among all American sports, has decayed and decayed and decayed faster and faster than anything once so good.  Baseball has gotten slower, more technical, more advertising, more expensive, more ubiquitous, and much, much more boring.  Oh sure, there are still fine exhibitions every day of great athletic skill and competitive prowess, but it's harder and harder to get there.  Astros in the american League?  ridiculous?

If you REALLY like baseball, then you should root for your "favorite" team to finish in the second tier every season.  the Mets are, and have been for 3 years, in a perfect position if you actually like baseball.  The games are cheaper to attend, better seats are available for a healthy cut off their original inflated offerings...and not too many yahoos are there to disturb your time.  It's perfect for actually enjoying a baseball game.  If they win, and make playoff noise and get big name FAs, you won't see me anywhere near Citi Field.

cheers

vk

Great rant, Vinnie, until you got to the Mets.  Outside of their brief but beautiful "Can anybody here play this game?!" Polo Grounds period, TNYMs are and always have been the bseb all equivalent poster children for RTJ Jr. style runway tees and symmetry until you puked.  I bet if RTJ Jr. had been chosen to build TPC Sawgrass, the 17th would have been a carbon copy of Shea DoNotRIP Stadium......

Try just a wee bit harder next time, Buckaroo!

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Rich Goodale

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2013, 10:33:06 AM »
Per a golf channel report, Tiger has joined Mr. President for his round today. The part I found most interesting about the report is that Tiger was at the range warming up with Butch Harmon before the president arrived.

Cool day for golf regardless of your political affiliation.

They were initially supposed to play The Medalist but opted to play the Floridian instead.

Obama and Tiger played 18 holes together from 6,200 yards. Then Obama went nine more and Tiger headed home. Yes, he blew off the President.

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-tours-news/blogs/local-knowledge/2013/02/barack-obama-and-tiger-woods-play-first-round-of-golf-togeth.html

 

6200 yards?!  Tiger must have shot in the mid-50's and The President got into double figures.
Life is good.

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corey miller

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2013, 01:56:41 PM »
"I like the fact he loves golf," Harmon said. "Obviously he doesn't get to play very much. He said it was a real treat for him to come here with his best friends and have a chance to play. But he counts every shot. He doesn't like gimmes. He putts everything out. He counts all his penalty shots. He thinks about all his shots before he hits them. Some people might say to the President of the United States, 'Oh, just move it.' But that's not him. He loves the game and loves the game the way it's supposed to be played."


How is it obvious that the President does not play much?  How much is much?  I assume he plays as much as most on this site and certainly more than the average golfer.

And is Harmon when describing the President not taking gimmies and thinking about all his shots talking code for "slow player"?


And how is it  that (I assume) the President takes a cart during most rounds "loving the way the game is supposed to be played?

Mike_Young

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2013, 02:07:51 PM »
Per a golf channel report, Tiger has joined Mr. President for his round today. The part I found most interesting about the report is that Tiger was at the range warming up with Butch Harmon before the president arrived.

Cool day for golf regardless of your political affiliation.

They were initially supposed to play The Medalist but opted to play the Floridian instead.

Obama and Tiger played 18 holes together from 6,200 yards. Then Obama went nine more and Tiger headed home. Yes, he blew off the President.

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-tours-news/blogs/local-knowledge/2013/02/barack-obama-and-tiger-woods-play-first-round-of-golf-togeth.html

 


6200 yards?!  Tiger must have shot in the mid-50's and The President got into double figures.

tiger went back to Medalist and played 18 with Peyton M....
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Jud_T

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Re: President Obama on a Boys Golf Weekend in Florida. Any sightings?
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2013, 02:15:20 PM »
What's Tiger, a +13?  Obama? 18?  The funny thing is Tiger could really make the Pres sweat by playing for a dollar a yard with Automatics....
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