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John Ezekowitz

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Architectural Intent and Trees
« on: January 10, 2013, 11:27:19 AM »
It seems to me from my reading of the site and the helpful posting of lots of historical aerials that the majority of what we here would decry as "over-treeing" has occurred, especially on Golden Era golf courses, because of the planting of trees long after the architect has left. Nevertheless, it also seems that the vast majority of these sites had trees when the architect designed them. These trees were at least tolerated, if not explicitly placed, by the architect, which makes them strategically significant.

I am trying to wrap my head around how architects think about trees on their designs. Trees are a variable of GCA that the architect can be absolutely sure will change with time. Maybe some architects here can chime in with how they thought about the future of the trees on the courses they have designed? Did they make explicit plans for what might happen with tree growth in the following decades?

If I may play Devil's Advocate, imagine a fairly old course that had some trees on it originally and has not had any new trees added. Imagine that we now look at the course and say "it feels claustrophobic" and "playing corridors have been unnecessarily narrowed." In the absence of direct evidence from the original architect, who is to say he did not intend or plan for that tree growth? When we decry changes to greens, fairways, or bunkers, we have evidence of the architect's original intent. When we decry tree encroachment, if the trees are original, it is not clear to me that we have that same evidence.

Colin Macqueen

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Re: Architectural Intent and Trees
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 05:27:14 PM »
John E.,

I am always struck by just how sparse of trees and open many of the early designs were. The aerials from the Golden Age era invariably seem to show show relatively little in the way of tree lines as such. I recall photos of Augusta National and Pasatiempo which depict eerily empty space! It was mentioned on the aerial thread regarding many early inland British courses just how few trees were present ... linksland excepted as the wind tends to deny tree growth.
My thinking is that the architects designed and built the courses and holes with relatively few trees in contention ... golf was better that way and they knew it!
Modern day architects I suspect, in carving a course out of a pine forest for example, would remove as many trees as they could get away with and leave just strategically tricky ones and enough off the main drag to give safe separation.  Apparently if you start thinning trees then their neighbours react badly and may, themselves, well struggle to survive which is tricky. On the other hand if the course is being constructed on an empty plain then I would think that trees are of no consideration and would not be planted or planned for.

Just my early morning musing ... I look forward to answers from the cognoscenti,

Cheers Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Tim Passalacqua

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Re: Architectural Intent and Trees
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 07:44:47 PM »
This is a good topic for the Lake course at Olympic.  When Sam Whiting rebuilt the Lake in 1927 to its current routing, he did have fairway bunkers on many holes.  Whiting started a heavy tree planting program and placed these bunkers to give the holes definition and separation until the trees grew. From what I understand, Whiting had always intended for the fairway bunkers to be removed down the road when the trees could provide a playing corridor and some defense for the hole.  I don't think he ever envisioned that many 70 foot cypress trees.  But true to Sam Whiting's intent, the trees remain in play after a big tree management program was enforced.  Many felt the trees were strategically important to the holes.  The trees have been thinned a great deal and any encroachment has been removed.  It seems fitting that the Lake only has 1 fairway bunker presently and the trees give each hole definition and defense.....hopefully like Whiting's vision.

Tony Ristola

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Re: Architectural Intent and Trees
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 05:46:10 PM »
It seems to me from my reading of the site and the helpful posting of lots of historical aerials that the majority of what we here would decry as "over-treeing" has occurred, especially on Golden Era golf courses, because of the planting of trees long after the architect has left. Nevertheless, it also seems that the vast majority of these sites had trees when the architect designed them. These trees were at least tolerated, if not explicitly placed, by the architect, which makes them strategically significant.
Most aerials of courses I've seen early on were quite barren.

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I am trying to wrap my head around how architects think about trees on their designs. Trees are a variable of GCA that the architect can be absolutely sure will change with time. Maybe some architects here can chime in with how they thought about the future of the trees on the courses they have designed? Did they make explicit plans for what might happen with tree growth in the following decades?
Often clubs simply ignore the "plans" for trees or suggestions by architects if they've made them. The committee sees an open space, and WHAMO! The next thing you know is there are trees filling the void. Some cultures are in love with trees, and don't understand their negative impact. In other instances committees seek to "beautify" their course and associate that with planting trees... which is easy to do.

What most fail to realize is those glorified sticks they planted with a few guys wielding shovels turn into water sucking, debris dropping, strategy killing behemoths. They grow slowly, so it's a bit like putting a frog in cool water and turning up the heat to a boil. By the time the club realizes the problem... it's huge.

Trying to cut a mature tree is tough, especially if it's graced with a cemetery-like memorial.

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If I may play Devil's Advocate, imagine a fairly old course that had some trees on it originally and has not had any new trees added. Imagine that we now look at the course and say "it feels claustrophobic" and "playing corridors have been unnecessarily narrowed." In the absence of direct evidence from the original architect, who is to say he did not intend or plan for that tree growth? When we decry changes to greens, fairways, or bunkers, we have evidence of the architect's original intent. When we decry tree encroachment, if the trees are original, it is not clear to me that we have that same evidence.
Let's say the architect wanted trees... he could not forecast the end result as he could standing over a greensite or bunker scheme in production. Like plans in general... he just may have guessed wrong. He may never have envisioned trees fed with water and fertilizer to encroach as they had... for the architect is human and is fallible.

The question is fairly simple. Do the trees in question add to the course, do they harm the agronomy, do they kill the design-intent, do they cut off wonderful views, do they make the course monotonous, are they necessary for protection or not? These and other similar questions need be made. In other cases like Oakmont and The National Golf Links of America... the answers are pretty simple. Pasatiempo may not have been a course intended to have so many trees, but from what I understand they are vital in places to keep golfers from wearing golf balls.

Sometimes trees, and groups of trees are just butt ugly and should go. Sometimes the architect may have had trees planted and expected them to be thinned out, but never were.

One thing is certain. The tree will die at some point, so if it's a negative, there's nothing wrong with bringing about it's demise sooner rather than later.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 05:56:40 PM by Tony Ristola »

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Architectural Intent and Trees
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 06:00:15 PM »
John,

Forgetting the "groupthing" around here about trees, the fact is that you can read up on every tree out there as to its future girth and height, and plan for it if you place it.

You refer to plantings after the gca leaves, and that does happen too, and its amazing how little though is given by many as to ultimate size of trees.

So, its easy for me to conceptualize trees, and I was actually pleasantly surprised recently at a 20 year old course of mine and how my planting plan had matured into nice naturalistic clumps of trees. (Stallion Mountain in Las Vegas).  That course had half a million in trees (in 1992 dollars or about 1600 trees) as part of initial construction.

Most golf courses don't have enough money to plant trees right up front.  I have, and know other architects have, prepared conceptual planting plans.  However, those usually get buried deep in a drawer and the amateurs on the greens committee plant however they see fit, which can be a mess.

Usually the biggest problems are straight line, even plantings, no diversity, and planting crappy species because they grow fast, or planting too close to play areas on the morning sun side.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach