Golf Digest 2013-14 State lists

[Niall Hay]

What about Michigan?

[Mark Saltzman]

1. Kapalua (Plantation), Kapalua, Maui ★ ♣ ♦
2. Nanea G.C., Kailua-Kona
3. Kuki'o Golf & Beach Club, Kailua-Kona
4. The Prince Course Princeville, Kauai ★ ♣ ♦
5. The Club at Hokuli'a Kailua-Kona
6. Mauna Kea G. Cse., Kohala Coast ♣ ♦
7. The Challenge at Manele (pictured above), Lanai ♣ ♦
8. Hualalai G.C. (Weiskopf), Kailua-Kona
9. Wailea G.C. (Gold), Wailea, Maui ♣ ♦
10. The Experience at Koele, Lanai ♦
11. Turtle Bay Resort G.C. (Palmer), Kahuku, Oahu ♣ ♦
12. Ko'olau G.C. Kaneohe, Oahu ♦
13. Makai G.C. at Princeville (Makai) Princeville, Kauai ♦
14. Poipu Bay Resort G. Cse., Koloa, Kauai ♦
15. Mauna Lani Resort (North), Kohala Coast ♦


here is Hawaii.  looks like Kukui'ula didnt have enough votes.

I think this is the old one.  Nanea is now no. 1.

[Mark Johnson]

my bad

here you go

1. Nanea
2. Kapulua
3.  Club at Hokuli
4. Prince Course
5.  Kukio
6.  Mauna Kea
7.  Challenge at Manele
8. Hualalai (Keolu)
9. Experience at Koele
10.  Makai
11.  Koolau
12.  Turtle Bay
13.  Poipu Bay
14.  Wailea
15.  Hallalai

Shocked that Makai course is this high.   Everything else smells rights (Wailea is probably a bit low;  I'd put Kauai Lagoon over Poipu).   Same comment about Kukui'ula

[Mark Johnson]

Michigan


1.  Crystal Downs
2.  Oakland South
3   Arcadia
4  Forest dunes
5  Kingsley
6 Lost Dunes
7 True North
8 Point o Woods
9  Marquette
10 Tullymore
11 Oakland North
12 Wushowhan
13 Franklin Hills
14 Bay Harbor
15 Black Lake
16 The Bear
17 Boyne Heather
18 Lakewood Gailes
19 Eastwynd
20 Eagle Eye

[Joe McCormac]

For all you Chicagoans why is there no mention of Glen View?   Site of the 1904 U.S. Open,  I thought it was a wonderful course
 and very enjoyable.  Certainly there is no comparison to the likes of Cantigny and Kemper Lakes.

There's no good reason for it.  Like Jud, it makes my list.  GD is pretty into "resistance to scoring" and Glen View is light in that aspect.  But as a neat and fun place to play, it's wonderful.  I recently heard that of the better amateurs in Illinois just joined there even though he belonged to a club with what almost everybody would consider a more difficult course from his (ie, back) tees, so make of that what you will.

In the terms discussed above, how does Old Elm not get a mention? 

[Jud_T]

Joe,

Write a letter to your Golf Digest editor.  Any Illinois list which claims 6 courses above Shoreacres should be taken with a salt mine.  Old Elm clearly belongs over the likes of Merit Club.  Unfortunately it surely falls short in the precious resistance to scoring category.

[Sven Nilsen]

If any of the members at Old Elm gave one crap about how they came out in the GD rankings, they'd buy the magazine. 

[Niall Hay]

Michigan


1.  Crystal Downs
2.  Oakland South
3   Arcadia
4  Forest dunes
5  Kingsley
6 Lost Dunes
7 True North
8 Point o Woods
9  Marquette
10 Tullymore
11 Oakland North
12 Wushowhan
13 Franklin Hills
14 Bay Harbor
15 Black Lake
16 The Bear
17 Boyne Heather
18 Lakewood Gailes
19 Eastwynd
20 Eagle Eye

Franklin below OHCC North? No Indianwood?

[Mark Saltzman]

Niall, Indianwood doesn't seem to fair well on the Digest ratings. Surprising.

[Sean_A]

Michigan


1.  Crystal Downs
2.  Oakland South
3   Arcadia
4  Forest dunes
5  Kingsley
6 Lost Dunes
7 True North
8 Point o Woods
9  Marquette
10 Tullymore
11 Oakland North
12 Wushowhan
13 Franklin Hills
14 Bay Harbor
15 Black Lake
16 The Bear
17 Boyne Heather
18 Lakewood Gailes
19 Eastwynd
20 Eagle Eye

Franklin below OHCC North? No Indianwood?

The two courses which stand out to me are The Bear and The Point.  Both are bloated designs which offer little creativity.  

I know I say this a lot, but I am still pleased Gailes is hangin' in there.  This course should be recognized as one of the starters for the so called renaissance of late.  I am always disappointed not to see UofM recognized, but its expected.  I must say, much of this list doesn't impress me.  I am not saying these aren't the best in Michigan, just that about half of them don't interest me.

Ciao

[Tommy Williamsen]

Michigan


1.  Crystal Downs
2.  Oakland South
3   Arcadia
4  Forest dunes
5  Kingsley
6 Lost Dunes
7 True North
8 Point o Woods
9  Marquette
10 Tullymore
11 Oakland North
12 Wushowhan
13 Franklin Hills
14 Bay Harbor
15 Black Lake
16 The Bear
17 Boyne Heather
18 Lakewood Gailes
19 Eastwynd
20 Eagle Eye

Franklin below OHCC North? No Indianwood?

The two courses which stand out to me are The Bear and The Point.  Both are bloated designs which offer little creativity.  

I know I say this a lot, but I am still pleased Gailes is hangin' in there.  This course should be recognized as one of the starters for the so called renaissance of late.  I am always disappointed not to see UofM recognized, but its expected.  I must say, much of this list doesn't impress me.  I am not saying these aren't the best in Michigan, just that about half of them don't interest me.

Ciao

Sean, Michigan has some excellent courses but the drop off is pretty noticeable.  For as many courses as they have the quality isn't what it could be. 

[Bill McKinley]

Can anyone get me the Ohio state by state rankings?

Thanks!

[John Butler]

The Florida list has 30 courses, I'm surprised that Mountain Lake is not among them.  Not enough views?

[Patrick_Mucci]

I'm puzzled by many of the rankings.

I know that the magazines have set criteria, thus I have to wonder how the panelist weight those criteria,
Or do certain aspects spring out to them while others remain unrevealed ?

It's a mystery to me

[Jud_T]

The Florida list has 30 courses, I'm surprised that Mountain Lake is not among them.  Not enough views?

6600 yard courses with a 126 slope don't impress these jokers.

[Mac Plumart]

Bill...

Ohio:

1--Muirfield Village
2--The Golf Club
3--Camargo
4--Scioto
5--Inverness
6--Kirtland
7--Firestone (South)
8--Brookside
9--Double Eagle
10--NCR
11--Canterbury
12--Sand Ridge
13--TCC of Pepper Pike
14--Coldstream
15--Longaberger
16--Firestone (North)
17--Shaker RUn
18--TPC Riverbend
19--Shaker Heights
20--Congress Lake
21--Avalon Lakes
22--Tartan Fields
23--OSU Scarlet
24--Pinnacle
25--Wedgewood

[Tom_Doak]

Don't you guys subscribe to the magazine?  Or live near a newsstand?

I can understand the excitement to see the list when they first release it and it's not on newsstands yet.  But asking for the listing of this state or that several days after the magazine has been delivered?

[Sam Morrow]

Don't you guys subscribe to the magazine?  Or live near a newsstand?

I can understand the excitement to see the list when they first release it and it's not on newsstands yet.  But asking for the listing of this state or that several days after the magazine has been delivered?

Why buy a magazine when someone will post it here? That's thinking outside the box.

[Patrick_Mucci]

The Florida list has 30 courses, I'm surprised that Mountain Lake is not among them.  Not enough views?

John,

Neither is Boca Rio

[Bill McKinley]

Mac,

Thanks for that. I'd have to say that list would differ greatly from mine. And of course I'm right! 

[BHoover]

Mac,

Thanks for that. I'd have to say that list would differ greatly from mine. And of course I'm right! 

Bill, what would be your list for Ohio? Very curious.

[Sean_A]

Michigan


1.  Crystal Downs
2.  Oakland South
3   Arcadia
4  Forest dunes
5  Kingsley
6 Lost Dunes
7 True North
8 Point o Woods
9  Marquette
10 Tullymore
11 Oakland North
12 Wushowhan
13 Franklin Hills
14 Bay Harbor
15 Black Lake
16 The Bear
17 Boyne Heather
18 Lakewood Gailes
19 Eastwynd
20 Eagle Eye

Franklin below OHCC North? No Indianwood?

The two courses which stand out to me are The Bear and The Point.  Both are bloated designs which offer little creativity.  

I know I say this a lot, but I am still pleased Gailes is hangin' in there.  This course should be recognized as one of the starters for the so called renaissance of late.  I am always disappointed not to see UofM recognized, but its expected.  I must say, much of this list doesn't impress me.  I am not saying these aren't the best in Michigan, just that about half of them don't interest me.

Ciao

Sean, Michigan has some excellent courses but the drop off is pretty noticeable.  For as many courses as they have the quality isn't what it could be. 

Tommy

Unfortunately, Michigan's golf boom coincided with housing development golf and the so called idea of championship golf.  Where Michigan is exceptional is at the lower end of the spectrum.  The state has a ton of good courses for very reasonable green fees. 

Ciao

[jeffwarne]

The Florida list has 30 courses, I'm surprised that Mountain Lake is not among them.  Not enough views?

Not enough views. They comp the green fee, but not the room

[Bill McKinley]

Brian,

Here's how my list would work without putting too much thought into it...

1. Muirfield Village
2. Camargo
3. The Golf Club
4. Brookside (Canton)
5. Canterbury
6. The Country Club
7.  Inverness
8.  Scioto
9. Firestone South
10. Kirtland
11. Double Eagle
12. Moraine
13. Sand Ridge
14. Pepper Pike Club
15. Sharon Golf Club
16. NCR
17. Longaberger
18. Coldstream
19. Firestone West
20. Shaker Heights CC

[jonathan_becker]

1. Muirfield Village

For real?  Just wondering.