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Jeff_Mingay

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The Art of Greenkeeping.
« on: November 13, 2012, 02:14:19 PM »
I was really happy to see a new feature in the latest issues of Golf Course Architecture magazine: A regular column designed to highlight the role greenkeepers play in preserving and enhancing great golf design. This is such an important subject that's often overlooked. Hats off to Adam Lawrence and his staff for this great idea.   

For me, it's always thrilling to visit a golf course where you can tell the superintendent is not just maintaining turf and making sure the bunkers are raked, but is also into the architecture: Respecting, preserving and, in some cases, even enhancing the design and distinctiveness of individual courses. There are those technical aspects of greenkeeping that can be effectively taught. But it seems to me it's not as simple to teach the art of greenkeeping.

Not to get ahead of Adam, but who are the best examples of superintendents who really embrace the art of greenkeeping?
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 02:30:30 PM »

Not to get ahead of Adam, but who are the best examples of superintendents who really embrace the art of greenkeeping?
             Aside from my own club, I've come across two in particular in the last year who utterly embrace the art of greenkeeping and the design side of their respective courses: Fintan Brennan at Portmarnock Hotel & Links.... And Martin Lipsett at Arklow...

Adam Clayman

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 06:53:17 AM »
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Dan Herrmann

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 07:07:10 AM »
Bruce Cadenelli does this wonderfully at French Creek in PA. 

http://vimeo.com/3177525

Jeff_Mingay

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 07:48:25 AM »
Kingsley Club registers.

I'll definitely accept Dan Lucas in this category, Adam :)
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Steve Okula

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 05:52:00 PM »
I've just come back from a trip where I met several such individuals: Scott Ramsay at Yale GC, Andy Wilson at Bethpage, and Rick Christian at Pine Valley.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 07:39:34 PM »
I'm proud to say I've met and enjoyed a round of golf here in WI at Lawsonia, with Dan Lucas.  He is respected among his peers, and was asked to consult at Whistling Straits on that particular trip we played Lawsonia. 

I think one marker of who is a respected superintendent, is many who are elected by their peers to lead State or the national professional associations.  I met a Cadenelli years ago, as well.  Although, there are a couple of Cadenelli's and you mention Bruce and I believe I am referring to Steve.  But, that is another marker of great superintendency, IMO, the family tradition.  There are a few family acts out there.

I know one of my favorite supers, who practices his craft with great understanding of the architecture in terms of knowing the design intent, and to some extent having to make do with a local board direction a wee bit contrary to original design intents, but still a practitioner that can maintain his course on a shoe string budget to incredibly high standards, is Josh Mahar at Wild Horse.  Josh also enjoys the respect of his peers having been elected to Pres of his State association.  All of those supers in NE look to one of their senior deans of grass on the prairie in Corey Crandall.  His successor at Sand Hills GC, Kyle Hegland (a nice Wisconsin boy  ;) has also been tapped by turf seminar groups to present professional data.  Another local area guy is Scott Schaller of North Shore CC in Menasha WI who worked extensively with Bruce Hepner in a resto-reno project and fully digs the architectural aspects.  And, speaking of nice Wisconsin boys, our senior dean of turf is now retired fellow, Monroe Miller, also widely respected and sought out for his knowledge and talent.

There are just so many great supers out there.... but;

The premise is the art of greenkeeping in relation to architecture and recognition of the golf course original intent design.  Sometimes the art and talent can get crushed by the demands of boards and owners that suppress the design intent for budget or personal preference, even ego reasons.  Many great supers still have to go along to get along, and I think it may be hard to make judgments on their artistic/turf mastery side of the equation when evaluating the maintenance meld, if the directives and who signs the checks are at odds with various issues that make maintenance meld a key aspect we here on GCA.com think about.
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Jeff_Mingay

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 08:01:26 PM »
Thanks for your great post, Dick... bringing to light some more guys who apparently understand the art. Awesome.

There are just so many great supers out there.... but;

The premise is the art of greenkeeping in relation to architecture and recognition of the golf course original intent design.  Sometimes the art and talent can get crushed by the demands of boards and owners that suppress the design intent for budget or personal preference, even ego reasons.  Many great supers still have to go along to get along, and I think it may be hard to make judgments on their artistic/turf mastery side of the equation when evaluating the maintenance meld, if the directives and who signs the checks are at odds with various issues that make maintenance meld a key aspect we here on GCA.com think about.

I totally understand the point of your paragraph above; unfortunately, I've been involved with such circumstance. At the same time though, some of the best superintendents I've worked with - probably most notably Scott Stambaugh at Overlake Golf and Country Club, in Seattle - are big time leaders. Guys like Scott are always striving to learn more about both greenkeeping and golf course architecture, coming to understand what's right for their respective golf courses then cunningly educating staff, members, fellow managers, et al as part of their daily routines.  

I'll add Stambaugh to this group of guys who truly understand the art of greenkeeping. Scott's all about maintaining proper golfing conditions (not green grass) and, as important, the architectural integrity of a golf course.    
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Dan Herrmann

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Re: The Art of Greenkeeping.
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 08:40:07 PM »
RJ - You're right - that's Bruce's brother.