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Scott Warren

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Ogilvy Clayton Golf Design - principally Mike Clayton, Ashley Mead and Mike Cocking - did an immense job on the first seven holes of their redesign of Bonnie Doon Golf Club.

I've said that before and I will say that again. I am undeniably biased as a member of BDGC, but as someone who joined the club almost solely on the strength of the news that OCGD was redesigning the course, I feel more than a little bit invested in the outcome. And I sleep well at night.

The first seven holes (and practice facility - 250m range and short game area) were completed early in 2012 and opened in May.

May is the beginning of winter down here in the Southern Hemisphere, so while the course was at an advanced enough state to be played at that stage, it was far from grown in.

Now, in mid-November, summer is still a few weeks off and the best growing months of the year are still ahead of us, yet in the 10 weeks or so of spring that have already passed the progress of the course has been noticeable and is at the stage now that some widespread photographic coverage will do the quality of the place justice.

The on-course crew deserves massive congratulations for what they have done the past while. For starters they have 21 or so holes to maintain while we are in the midst of work, but of late the standard of the new work has really boomed in its presentation. And they have been brilliant at setting the holes - pins and tees - up in ways that maximise the variety and fun of the holes OCGD designed.

Next time you see something on your home course that impresses you, thank the next greenkeeper you come across. They do some fantastic work at ungodly hours and in appalling weather at times.

And so, to the holes. 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 and 18 are new holes. 14 and 15 on land that was previously a former rubbish tip between BDGC and Eastlake GC and the rest are redesigns of existing holes.

9 - Short five, ~430m
Elevated tee, approach blind unless you're within about 160m of the green, which is defended left and right by cavernous bunkers. This hole, 10 and 18 have the most subtle of the new greens. many will drive it to 180-190m from the green, from which point they see only the top of the flag and have a gut-tearing choice to make in relation to whether they go for it.




10 - Long par four, 420m+
Bunkers in the foreground are imposing, but shouldn't come into play on this hole (an extension of them to the right of shot is in play for a fanned approach to the 9th). A long drive will catch a steep slope stealing you another 40m or so. Diagonal bunkers down the right challenge the stud, but note the cape of fairway short of them that give the duffer an out. Green a great example of the "bowl and knob" style of OCGD, where many greens contains both bowls that will feed the ball to the hole and exposed (often frontal) knobs that provide the perfect place for a deflecting pin that rejects all bar the perfect approach.





12 - Short four, ~290m at tips, usually plays about 265m
This hole is thoroughly covered HERE and ALSO HERE.  In short, it's the perfect tempting, risk/reward short four and with strong winds regularly varying between the north and south, we get all conditions that make this hole so much fun to play every day.




13 - Mid three - ~165m
On the longer side, but playing downhill. Winds tend to blow southerly or northerly in the east of Sydney, so this is generally downwind or into it. I've hit a 9i and I've had a flushed 3 hybrid fall short. Generally it's a 5i-7i shot. The green is mostly blind thanks to a diagonal ridge halfway between tee and green. The green is massive, but features some wild contours that make a two-putt a tough ask from the wrong segment of the green for that day's pin position.



14 - three-shot par five - ~520m
There's far more going on here than pictures can express. This hole needs a few plays in varying winds to be understood. Diagonal ridge visible in drive pic separates the course from the range and is the OOB line. Great use of a forced feature (the edge of the range) to create interest. The fairway bunker is reachable downwind, but into it you are short enough that the same hazard renders the lay-up zone blind. Left of a broad rough/native area is a LHS lay-up spot that provides a preferable angle to LHS pins. It's a benefit worthy of the risk of getting there from the driving zone. Green is really steep in the middle, further rewarding smart approach strategy and execution.






15 - Short three - 75m to 130m
Bold green feeds to chipping areas short if a ball carrying too much spin finds the front of the putting surface, which looks wild, but is far gentler up its right side than its left. Back left is a fantastic pin that gathers anything in the correct zone and really repels anything else. A bold hole, but at such a modest length there's no excuse for poor execution. Generally plays across the prevailing wind. Sometimes into the wind, almost never downwind.




18 - Long four - ~410m
One of my favourite holes on the course. Elevated drive gives you a shot downwind (maybe half the time) of taking on the LHS drive bunker at 250m from the tee and having a shortish iron in. If you drive to the safer RHS then a pushed-up hill of rough and sand obscures your approach to the bunkerless green. Challenges every shot without ever introducing a lost ball to the equation.





So that's it so far. 8, 11 and 16 get their facelift in the coming winter. can't wait for that stage, which takes us past half-way - to be complete. It features some of the best land on the course, over which two ~300m part fours will be built.

The pictures don't do it justice. If in town please drop me a line and come out to see it for yourself.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 12:39:36 AM by Scott Warren »

Mike_Cocking

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Thanks for posting those photos Scott.

I was there a fortnight ago and (after having not been there for a month or two) it was really pleasing that the character of the course was starting to shine through - after looking like a course going through growin for so long. 

The next stage is a really exciting one - as you point out the land is great and the two short fours should be two of the best, most interesting holes on the property.  Were also building a new back tee for 18 which will help that hole - and as we have discussed before, the back nine, which is short on muscle.

PS - I haven't heard "bowl and knob" before......perhaps a new architectural movement!

Mike_Clayton

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Scott,

Do me a favour and have a game with Dave Meredith. It - the new work -  needs some explanation and you are just the man!

David_Elvins

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Looks good Scott and Mikes.

What was consciously done, if anything, to differentiate bonnie Doon from the lakes?
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Mike_Clayton

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Brian,

The holes that are completed make an interesting contrast with the holes that remain from the 'old' course.
It is quite short - maybe 6600 yards - but fun and interesting to play.
It will also make an interesting comparison with The Australian  (a neighbour of BD and The Lakes) where Jack Nicklaus is redoing the course he redid in 1977

Dave,

Given that The Lakes and Bonnie Doon are right next to each other, they are always going to be somewhat similar. The planting around the bunkers is quite different - there is no fescue at BD.
Bonnie Doon does not have those huge expanses of sandy waste land that defines the front 9 at The Lakes.
The greens are not dissimilar -at both courses we made more internal contour. The greens at the Lakes seem to be defined by 14 - a bit like 13 at Barnbougle is the memory of many people and the greens there.

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Marvelous work, what a transition from the old to the new, the members must be delighted to get a brand "new" golf course and excited about the rest of the change.
Great job gents.

Scott Warren

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Mike Cocking,

I've been thinking a bunch about the "knob and bowl" greens lately. It's not something I recall seeing elsewhere and it's such a wonderful feature. Is it something you guys do consciously?

What I see are great greens (I guess I already explained this in the OP) where the hole can be completely different in really significant ways based on the pin because some positions gather the ball generously and yet there's ruthless spots -  front right at 9 and 10, left-centre at 12, just over the left-hand-side of the bunker at 14, front at 18 - on the same greens that demand absolute precision.

At 420-odd metres, 10 is a tough ask any day, but to a back pin with the backboards and sideboards you feel like you can get a long iron near enough for a comfortable two-putt. But with the pin front right on that knob, just over the false front, the hole is a good half or three-quarters of a shot harder.

Same at 12. Pin back-centre in that bowl I feel like birdie is a really good chance, maybe even 50/50, but when the pin is left I stand on the tee happy to take a par and run to the next tee.

So few holes vary that greatly based on nothing more than a change of pin position.


Mike Clayton,

In addition to the differences you list between The Lakes and Bonnie Doon, I'd add that BD is on far bolder land, massive elevation changes compared to fairly flat land at The Lakes (aside from 7, the drive on 8, the approach to 12 and the drive at 13) and there's no water at BD, while The Lakes has its namesake bodies of water at 1, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16 and 17.

And the kikuyu at The lakes compared to the couch at BD obviously has an effect on shotmaking.

Mike_Cocking

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Scott,

Your point about holes changing with a slightly different pin is a feature we often try to incorporate - both at the doon and elsewhere.  Healesvilles greens feature a lot of this also if you ever get the chance to get up there.

We tried to incorporate a little more small internal contour at the doon than we have done elsewhere.  Contours that dont necessarily tie into a surrounding hill, ridge or bunker, but ones that start and finish within the green itself.  They weren't deliberately knobs and bowls but because they don't tie into to the surrounding ground they may appear so. 

Most of this small movement was added just prior to seeding.  One of the joys of working in sand is being able to rough in a green and then once the irrigation is in, working with a bobcat and bunker rake to create the  interesting smaller contours.  Constant fiddling right up until seeding...it affectionately became known as 'tweaking' on that job and we did plenty of it!


Sean_A

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SCott

Thanks for the pix.  Do you have anymore of the par 3s - maybe from the rear?  They both look fantastic.

Has anybody had the opportunity to completely alter two decent courses into something special other than Mike & Co these recent years? 

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Scott Warren

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Sean,

Here's the 13th from long right. You can see players up on the tee to give some context to how the hole plays. They are on the front tee, which isn't that much shorter than the tips but by moving right is afforded a much clearer look at the green. The tips are back a bit and a good 25m left (so to the right as you look at the tee in this shot) and from there the green is almost entirely blind, with just the extreme RHS visible - which is not a bad thing as it's a fairly good, safe place to aim for most pins.


Scott Warren

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Re: Bonnie Doon GC - the first seven holes of the redesign in words and pics
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 06:26:54 AM »
And while I am at it, nothing provides a clearer example of the course and property's transformation than these two pics from the same vantage point taken 18 months apart.





Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Bonnie Doon GC - the first seven holes of the redesign in words and pics
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2012, 09:21:02 AM »
Scott:

What do you think of the bushes on the left side of ridge at the 13th? There's something about blindness caused by trees/bushes that feels odd to me. Wouldn't it look better without the bushes?

Mike & Mike:

Did you discuss removing the bushes on the 13th? If yes, what was the reasoning for keeping them?

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Bonnie Doon GC - the first seven holes of the redesign in words and pics
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 11:10:03 AM »
Donal,

13 would be miles better without those trees - but they are part of the Eastern Suburbs Banksia Scrub and cannot be removed.
We are working at a course north of Perth on the other side of the country (think LA to NY distance) and up the coast road (that runs for at least 1000 miles and presumably is all sand dunes) they are bulldozing miles and miles of sand dunes covered in banksia (a beautiful Australian tree) and making housing lots. It's hard to believe it's the same country sometimes.

Scott Warren

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Re: Bonnie Doon GC - the first seven holes of the redesign in words and pics
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 07:50:33 PM »
Donal,

The vegetation on the hill isn't ideal and I agree that blind shots due to landforms and blind shots due to vegetation are two very different beasts.

That said, the hole is still enormously improved on its previous guise due to a much larger and more interesting green that suits the shot you're playing from the tee and the reduction in both vegetation on that ridge and topiary flanking the tee that was at odds with the wild nature of the land there. That's over and above the fact that manicured formal gardens on golf courses are ridiculous as a blanket rule.