Hurricane Sandy looks like a Dandy

[Tim Martin]

As I sit here in my den in West Hartford Connecticut watching the Weather Channel it looks as though the Northeast is going to get creamed. Golf courses will surely pay a heavy price. Here we go again!!!

[PCCraig]

Best of luck getting through the storm.

[Howard Riefs]

Sandy certainly looks menacing on the forecast models. How are clubs/courses in its path preparing for the storm?

[Joe Bausch]

This appears quite serious.  My school Villanova has already canceled classes for Mon and Tu. 

[Ed Brzezowski]

This appears quite serious.  My school Villanova has already canceled classes for Mon and Tu. 

lets go play

[Tiger_Bernhardt]

When is the last time the NE got creamed by a Hurricane? The water is cold enough up there to suck the strength out of most storms. Also most storms go by so the west or weak side of the storm is over land. I do hope this storm is again just a rain event and no one or property is hurt or damaged by it.

[Dan Herrmann]

Tiger,
The hurricane will transition to an extra-tropical storm, which doesn't need warm ocean temperatures to sustain itself.  In other words, Sandy will be an extremely dangerous and powerful nor'easter.  That's why you don't see "hurricane" warnings up here, but you will see high wind and flood warnings.

To me, that's a PR nightmare.  The NWS is being correct scientifically, but I fear that the lack of hurricane warnings will prevent some from taking this as seriously as we should.

As to golf courses, the combination of saturated soils, extremely heavy rain, and long-duration winds of over 40MPH with gusts over 60MPH may bring down a lot of trees and cause significant damage to clubhouses.

[jeffwarne]

When is the last time the NE got creamed by a Hurricane? The water is cold enough up there to suck the strength out of most storms. Also most storms go by so the west or weak side of the storm is over land. I do hope this storm is again just a rain event and no one or property is hurt or damaged by it.

Irene?
Ask the folks of Vermont, CT, upstate NY etc. whether or not they got creamed by that.
a slow moving "rain event" can be quite devastating in mountainous terrain
The difference is they quietly put their lives and infrastructure back together themselves with a can do and pitch in attitude, rather than starting riots in shelters and bitching about which Federal agency and/or politician was to blame and who could enable them next

[Rich Goodale]

Let's be careful out there.

[Jim_Kennedy]

When is the last time the NE got creamed by a Hurricane? The water is cold enough up there to suck the strength out of most storms. Also most storms go by so the west or weak side of the storm is over land. I do hope this storm is again just a rain event and no one or property is hurt or damaged by it.

Irene?
Ask the folks of Vermont, CT, upstate NY etc. whether or not they got creamed by that.
a slow moving "rain event" can be quite devastating in mountainous terrain
The difference is they quietly put their lives and infrastructure back together themselves with a can do and pitch in attitude, rather than starting riots in shelters and bitching about which Federal agency and/or politician was to blame and who could enable them next

It's a completely different circumstance when an area gets flooded, the water recedes in a few days, and the folks can get on to rebuilding their homes, businesses and lives versus the several weeks of flood waters that remained in some areas of New Orleans during Katrina.
Everyone I know in the Catskills had access to clean water, food, shelter, and thousands of homes weren't affected. No one was forced into an arena in stifling heat and humidity, poor facilities, and an inadequate supply of food and water.  

The people in the area are still rebuilding from the aftermath of hurricane Irene and tropical storm Lee.

The FEMA trailer in Prattsville, NY

[Peter Le]

I live along the shore in Branford, CT and the "tropical storm" that hit last year left us without power for 3 days.  Adding insult to injury, my home course at Yale was closed down to clear all the trees that fell and deal with the course flooding (not to mention the power there took even longer to come back online).  I worry that flooding along a few holes (#3, 4, 6, 10, 16, 18) will make the rest of the season a wash (no pun intended). Hope everybody in the path of Sandy makes it through without too much damage!

[Howard Riefs]

Irene?
Ask the folks of Vermont, CT, upstate NY etc. whether or not they got creamed by that.

Irene definitely packed a punch last August:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,49463.0.html

A few links of the damage on NE golf courses:

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-courses/2011-08/photos-storm-irene#slide=1

http://golfweek.com/news/2011/aug/29/good-night-irene-eastern-seaboard-cleans/

[Sam Morrow]

When this storm bashes the mansions on Long Island and there is a benefit telethon I predict Michael Buble to get up and say that Barack Obama hates white people. Poor Mike Myers won't know what to do.

[Anthony Butler]

Another benefit of Barack Obama's re-election.

Four more years of listening to privileged white people moan about how bad they have it...

[Tiger_Bernhardt]

I have no interest in acting like tropical storms or Hurricanes are not serious business. It is rare to get the amount of rain over such a large area as a few years ago. that said more often or not when winds that weak blow down that many trees it is a testiment to the lack of good pruning by homeowners and the local utilities. Please think about what you are saying. you get winds that hard with winter storms all the time. the storm is moving 12 miles an hour. It will be hard to get 10 plus inches of rain except in a small area. the real fear from hurricanes is storm surge first. The people on the coast need to watch our for the strength of the winds do not provide a direct correlation to that. The wind is next and this storm has no punch at all. The rain total is last. Assuming there is something that resembles intelligence then you guys did not build your homes or businesses in areas below the 100 year flood line. If you ar ein such an area that happens on the northeast quad and the storm stalls.  I hope you have your flood insurance. Otherwise put on your floaties and enjoy the show. It is just silly to read such excitement about a minimal hurricane or tropical storm. These storms really do have a way of getting rid of weak trees which need triming or to be cut down. I have two next door to me that my neighbor is to cheap to trim or cu down. I go through the tree through the house trill if the winds are significantly over 100MPH at my house and from the right direction to come through my bath and part of the master BR. I am wise enough to move the TV and golf clubs to a safe zone. That was a valid pint of when a slow moving storm hits mountains. That is why Tennessee often gets more rain that the coastal areas of the gulf coast. Anyway lets just hope this is much about nothing and by Wednesday life is back to normal.

[Tim Martin]

I have no interest in acting like tropical storms or Hurricanes are not serious business. It is rare to get the amount of rain over such a large area as a few years ago. that said more often or not when winds that weak blow down that many trees it is a testiment to the lack of good pruning by homeowners and the local utilities. Please think about what you are saying. you get winds that hard with winter storms all the time. the storm is moving 12 miles an hour. It will be hard to get 10 plus inches of rain except in a small area. the real fear from hurricanes is storm surge first. The people on the coast need to watch our for the strength of the winds do not provide a direct correlation to that. The wind is next and this storm has no punch at all. The rain total is last. Assuming there is something that resembles intelligence then you guys did not build your homes or businesses in areas below the 100 year flood line. If you ar ein such an area that happens on the northeast quad and the storm stalls.  I hope you have your flood insurance. Otherwise put on your floaties and enjoy the show. It is just silly to read such excitement about a minimal hurricane or tropical storm. These storms really do have a way of getting rid of weak trees which need triming or to be cut down. I have two next door to me that my neighbor is to cheap to trim or cu down. I go through the tree through the house trill if the winds are significantly over 100MPH at my house and from the right direction to come through my bath and part of the master BR. I am wise enough to move the TV and golf clubs to a safe zone.

Tiger-I don't know where you are getting your information but you might want to flip on TWC and take a look at what is unfolding on the east coast. The storm is virtually unprecedented in size and barometric pressure.Take into account the scope of mandatory evacuations,mass transit shutdowns as well as 3000 airlines flights already cancelled and it is pretty clear that this event may have catastrophic consequences. The storm is being deemed a nor'easter with a hurricane component and has winds stretching some 875 miles. I am not an alarmist by nature but I am just a tad nervous about this situation.

[jeffwarne]

I have no interest in acting like tropical storms or Hurricanes are not serious business. It is rare to get the amount of rain over such a large area as a few years ago. that said more often or not when winds that weak blow down that many trees it is a testiment to the lack of good pruning by homeowners and the local utilities. Please think about what you are saying. you get winds that hard with winter storms all the time. the storm is moving 12 miles an hour. It will be hard to get 10 plus inches of rain except in a small area. the real fear from hurricanes is storm surge first. The people on the coast need to watch our for the strength of the winds do not provide a direct correlation to that. The wind is next and this storm has no punch at all. The rain total is last. Assuming there is something that resembles intelligence then you guys did not build your homes or businesses in areas below the 100 year flood line. If you ar ein such an area that happens on the northeast quad and the storm stalls.  I hope you have your flood insurance. Otherwise put on your floaties and enjoy the show. It is just silly to read such excitement about a minimal hurricane or tropical storm. These storms really do have a way of getting rid of weak trees which need triming or to be cut down. I have two next door to me that my neighbor is to cheap to trim or cu down. I go through the tree through the house trill if the winds are significantly over 100MPH at my house and from the right direction to come through my bath and part of the master BR. I am wise enough to move the TV and golf clubs to a safe zone. That was a valid pint of when a slow moving storm hits mountains. That is why Tennessee often gets more rain that the coastal areas of the gulf coast. Anyway lets just hope this is much about nothing and by Wednesday life is back to normal.

That rant is as intelligent   as I would sound  judging the entire population of Louisiana based on the coverage of rioting, looting, and local political "leadership" we saw after Katrina.

The rain total is not "last"-extended periods of rain weaken trees, making them very vulnerable to category 1 hurricane force winds, which are projected to blow for 36-48 hours.
I saw several entire towns in Vermont literally washed away in Irene-Do you think that's because they're too cheap to prune trees???
and by the way, I saw no looting.......
Connecticut wasn't crushed by storm surge, it was crushed by water coming the other way down the rivers.
This storm is packing both storm surge and inland flooding, then throw in rain/wind for 3 days.

One can only hope the experts are wrong.

and no, I don't have flood coverage-they pulled that after Katrina broke the insurance companies...
evidently used my premiums to pay those claims

[Joe Bausch]

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[Mark Bourgeois]

When is the last time the NE got creamed by a Hurricane? The water is cold enough up there to suck the strength out of most storms. Also most storms go by so the west or weak side of the storm is over land. I do hope this storm is again just a rain event and no one or property is hurt or damaged by it.

Irene?
Ask the folks of Vermont, CT, upstate NY etc. whether or not they got creamed by that.
a slow moving "rain event" can be quite devastating in mountainous terrain
The difference is they quietly put their lives and infrastructure back together themselves with a can do and pitch in attitude, rather than starting riots in shelters and bitching about which Federal agency and/or politician was to blame and who could enable them next

Jeff,

Would this be an okay time to ask you what lots of people up there asked New Orleanians after Katrina: why have you chosen to live in a place where hurricanes strike? 

Good luck and take care,

[Anthony Butler]

I saw several entire towns in Vermont literally washed away in Irene-Do you think that's because they're too cheap to prune trees???
and by the way, I saw no looting.......
Connecticut wasn't crushed by storm surge, it was crushed by water coming the other way down the rivers.
and no, I don't have flood coverage-they pulled that after Katrina broke the insurance companies...
evidently used my premiums to pay those claims

There are very few weather-related riots in blue states... because properly funded emergency organizations arrive to provide the correct assistance to home-owners. There was truck on my street in Concord, MA today checking on overhanging branches for power wires..

As result our citizens are not left standing on rooftops in 95 percent humidity for days on end before being shoved into 100 degree shelters without the adequate food, water or sanitation.

Sorry about your flood insurance... Drop Pres. Obama a note and see what he can do about your pre-existing condition.

[jeffwarne]

When is the last time the NE got creamed by a Hurricane? The water is cold enough up there to suck the strength out of most storms. Also most storms go by so the west or weak side of the storm is over land. I do hope this storm is again just a rain event and no one or property is hurt or damaged by it.

Irene?
Ask the folks of Vermont, CT, upstate NY etc. whether or not they got creamed by that.
a slow moving "rain event" can be quite devastating in mountainous terrain
The difference is they quietly put their lives and infrastructure back together themselves with a can do and pitch in attitude, rather than starting riots in shelters and bitching about which Federal agency and/or politician was to blame and who could enable them next

Jeff,

Would this be an okay time to ask you what lots of people up there asked New Orleanians after Katrina: why have you chosen to live in a place where hurricanes strike? 

Good luck and take care,

The golf baby, the golf

seriously, I'm afraid you'd have to ask 100 million people that this time
Fla-Maine- hard to dodge this one and the inlanders off the coast took the brunt of it last time.
I know quite a few who evacuated right INTO the storm last time

Earthquake/Tsunami out west yesterday, tornados and blizzards in the middle

Thanks Anthony, as far as flood insurance, the caps don't sniff the value to rebuild a home out here anyway(nice problem to have I guess )
I should be fine anyway-if not ,we'll figure it out, as long as some genius doesn't pass a law that says we can't rebuild in the same spot

[Mark McKeever]

I was luckily able to beat the hurricane at Morris County GC this morning.  It was actually a dry day with a two club wind (opposite of prevailing) which was pretty fun.  



Best of luck to them and all the courses in the path of the storm!

Mark

[Jim_Kennedy]

How some folks tell the bad guys from the good guys:



 

[archie_struthers]

 


I'm sitting here in Atlantic City looking right at the ocean. My wife is a key employee at one of the casinos and though closed, they must staff and maintain the building, and guard the cash, thru the storm.  My home town of Ocean City has been evacuated , as are most of the barrier islands in NJ!  So my dog  Benji and I hanging out in AC proper, watching the waves and walking the halls.


Looks like some real flooding issues associated with Sandy.  I've been thru a bunch of bad Noreasters but Sandy will likely be the worst we've faced since the 1962 storm , a real nasty. The duration prediction is just so long. The wind may not do as much damage to property and golf courses, as we've experienced some big wind storms lately that have culled lots of weaker trees from the crop.  It's not a summer weekend , but courses struggling for revenue will get another kick in the teeth , no doubt losing at least five days of decent action. As needed will continue reports from the eye of the storm.

 

Now think of this, a reprobate caddy, locked in a giant casino with no card games, no horse racing , no gambling ......ooh the humanity!

[Kirk Gill]

From the currently safe confines of Colorado I can only offer my hopes and prayers for those in the Northeast who I know and love and for those I don't know. I hope that folks are safe, and that all the seaside golf courses I love or would enjoy getting to know make it through relatively unscathed.

We don't get a lot of hurricanes up here, just the occasional tornado and rogue criminal.