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Howard Riefs

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Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« on: September 18, 2012, 01:29:52 PM »
One more time. A few links of course tours, features, spectator information on the Ryder Cup at Medinah #3. More to come. Feel free to add others.  


COURSE TOURS

RyderCup.com
http://www.rydercup.com/usa/course/tour/1

Daily Herald
https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120828/sports/708309987/photos/AR/

Golf Digest
Hole-by-hole tour
By Ron Whitten
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-courses/2012-09/photos-medinah#slide=1

GolfChannel.com
“Tee to green: Video tour of Medinah”
By Frank Nobilo
http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/tee-to-green-medinah-country-club-2012-ryder-cup/?hj=xfs

Golfweek
"Hole by Hole Tour"
By Brad Klein
http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/26/ryder-cup-medinah-country-club-hole-hole/

Reuters
"Hole by Hole Tour"
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-24/sports/sns-rt-us-golf-ryder-coursebre88n0uv-20120924_1_tee-bunkers-tree-limbs

GCA
Course Tour
By Phil McDade
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,53660.0.html



EVENT INFORMATION

Weekly Schedule
http://www.rydercup.com/usa/event/2012-ryder-cup-event-schedule

Course Map
http://bit.ly/U4MUQz

Medinah scorecard
http://www.medinahcc.org/Golf/Golf-Course-3-262.html

Parking info
http://bit.ly/IPxK9Q

Spectator guide, digital format
http://www.myvirtualpaper.com/doc/Golfweek-Custom-Media/2012rydercupvpopt/2012091301/#0

Spectator guide, paper version
http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/golf/golfm/release/usa/sites/pgachampionship/files/docs/2012-Ryder-Cup-Spectator-Guide.pdf

Daily Herald
“Ryder Cup week adds star-studded celebrity lineup”
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120910/sports/709109758/

Chicago Tribune
“PGA of America exec expects 'outstanding' Medinah for Ryder Cup”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/golf/chi-pga-of-america-exec-expects-outstanding-medinah-for-ryder-cup-20120824,0,3570043.story

RyderCup.com
“Fans Encouraged to Wear Red on Sunday”
http://www.rydercup.com/usa/news/us-fans-encouraged-wear-red-sunday


COURSE SET-UP/FEATURES

AP
“Love says Medinah will be easier than a major”
http://golfdigest.stats.com/golf/story.asp?i=20120917185624930000101&ref=rec&tm=&src=GOLF

RyderCup.com
“Love has Medinah set up to his preference”
http://www.rydercup.com/usa/news/davis-love-iii-has-medinah-set-his-preference

GolfChannel.com
“Love after visit to Medinah: 'Cut the rough' ”
http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/love-after-visit-to-medinah-cut-the-rough/

Chicago Sun-Times
“To have a shot at Ryder Cup, U.S. needs the ‘us’ ”
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/golf/15152579-419/to-have-a-shot-at-ryder-cup-us-needs-the-us.html

Chicago Sun-Times
“As Ryder Cup nears, Medinah’s Course No. 3 is grounds for excitement”
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/golf/14792880-419/as-ryder-cup-nears-medinahs-course-no-3-is-grounds-for-excitement.html

Golf Digest
“An Extra Dose Of Do-Or-Die: Medinah's wrinkles add risk and reward to the Ryder Cup”
By Ron Whitten
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-courses/2012-10/medinah-country-club-whitten

RyderCup.com
“An unfamiliar Medinah awaits”
By Steve Eubanks
http://www.rydercup.com/usa/news/eubanks-unfamiliar-medinah-awaits

Daily Herald
“Medinah’s storied past adds to allure"
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120923/news/709239899/

Daily Herald
“Ryder Cup prep turned into battle against nature”
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120924/news/709249733/
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120924/news/709249733/video/1841266587001/ (Video)

Wall Street Journal
"In Golf Rivalry, Important Equipment Includes a Mower"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444180004578016483893607010.html?mod=e2tw

BBC
"Ryder Cup 2012: Walking the Medinah course"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/19726051

Golfweek
"Medinah a brawny track with its modern makeovers"
By Brad Klein
http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/25/medinah-brawny-track-its-modern-makeovers/

Golfweek
"Love gets his wish with Medinah setup"
By Jeff Rude
http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/25/rude-love-gets-his-wish-medinah-set-/

Golf.com
“Medinah's new 15th will give pros a difficult decision, and may decide the outcome”
By Cameron Morfit
http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/ryder-cup-2012-medinah-par-4-15th-hole



GCA MEDINAH THREADS

"Does Medinah's architecture favor the US?"
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,53657.0.html

“Any thoughts on how Medinah will fare as a match play venue?”
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,53316.0.html

“Who does Love love? 2012 Ryder Cup picks w/ GCA implications”
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,53159.0.html

“Medinah - why Bendelow?”
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,52998.0.html

“Ryder Cup Records (Bet the House)”
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,53433.0.html

“A step in the right direction at Medinah?...Hole #15 updated (2010)
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,44458.0.html

“Medinah to Spend $3 Million-Plus on Pre-Ryder Cup Renovations” (2009)
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40157.0.html

“The Emperor With no Clothes" (2006)
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,25247.0.html

“Klein Pounds Medinah” (2006)
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,25140.0.html


MISC.

Golf.com
“Will Ferrell dishes out some Ryder Cup advice”
http://www.golf.com/video/will-ferrell-ryder-cup-advice

MedinahCC.org
Heritage/History
http://heritage.medinahcc.org/

Daily Herald
“Medinah’s neighbors take Ryder Cup in stride”
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120917/news/709179826/

Daily Herald
“Ryder Cup volunteers: A once-in-a-lifetime deal”
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120910/news/709109650/

Chicago Tribune
“Ryder Cup fans need to eat too"
By Phil Vittel
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-20/features/ct-dining-0920-pvr-ryder-cup-20120920_1_huge-menu-tokio-pub-steaks-and-seafood

Illinois Golfer
www.illinoisgolfer.net
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 10:21:15 PM by Howard Riefs »
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 03:46:27 PM »
Updates in red.

Coincidentally, US fans are encouraged to wear red on Sunday.

GO USA!
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Howard Riefs

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 11:46:54 AM »
A few new articles including these pieces on the course features and set-up:


Wall Street Journal
"In Golf Rivalry, Important Equipment Includes a Mower"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444180004578016483893607010.html?mod=e2tw

BBC
"Ryder Cup 2012: Walking the Medinah course"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/19726051

Golfweek
"Medinah a brawny track with its modern makeovers"
By Brad Klein
http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/25/medinah-brawny-track-its-modern-makeovers/

"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Howard Riefs

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 01:16:07 PM »
Brad's "hole by hole tour" of Medinah:

http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/26/ryder-cup-medinah-country-club-hole-hole/

With an overview on course maintenance:

"The intermediate bluegrass rough framing Medinah’s 27-30-yard-wide fairways will be cut at 1.25 inches for a width of 10 yards – on each side. That’s a generous buffer. Beyond that, the so-called primary rough will be only 2.5 inches deep – a lot lighter in thickness than Medinah’s members normally face and lighter than anything seen recently during the PGA Championship at Medinah in 1999 and 2006. The more-forgiving rough is supposed to favor the long-bombing, somewhat wilder U.S. team. Except that there’s no evidence on paper that the U.S. team is so much wilder that being in the more-moderate rough will help them any more than it will benefit the Europeans."


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Dan Kelly

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 06:22:59 PM »
I got asked this question earlier today, and I've scoured the websites and can't find an answer.  Does anybody know when the shuttles start running from Arlington Park and the forest preserve to the south - particularly on Friday when the matches start?  I have friends who want to be there well before "balls in the air" but nobody (including myself) can figure out when the shuttles start running.  I'd love to be able to relay good info back to them....

Is this part of your answer? http://www.arlingtonpark.com/calendar/ryder-cup-parking-information
« Last Edit: September 26, 2012, 06:29:07 PM by Dan Kelly »
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Phil McDade

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 09:34:59 PM »
Nevermind.  I was stuck in a loop of crappy websites and gave up.  I did my own search, and found it about as fast as you did.  6 am is the answer.....

Dave:

Bus shuttle system worked like clockwork Wed. with big crowds. Well-organized, lots of busses, friendly helpful folks running it, and less than 30 minutes from Arlington to walking in the gate during weekday traffic. Well-done. Note -- the busses are on the far west side of the parking lot at Arlington, almost to the stables. The busses drop you at Lake Park HS across the road from the front entrance to the tourney -- it is a bit of a hike to get from the entrance to the action, and you have to get wanded for security, which takes a while.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 08:14:35 AM by Phil McDade »

Howard Riefs

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2012, 08:01:20 AM »
Phil,

Did you see a will call window outside the front gate?
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Phil McDade

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012, 08:14:10 AM »
Howard:

Yes -- once you get into the main entrance (which is as wide as a football field!) head toward the far right side -- I believe that's the call window. Signs are quite clear; this is a really well-organized event, which it should be, as its the Ryder Cup, but the logistics are occasionally mind-boggling, and what I saw yesterday was pretty impressive.

(The main entrance -- really, the only one for spectators -- is near the northwest corner of the property, right across the street from Lake Park high school. Some guy apparently tried to sneak in off Medinah Rd. near the 17th hole -- didn't work. >:()

One more thing: There are of course RC programs for sale. But there is also a very good map of the course with details on tents and such handed out for free at booths marked as "information."
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 08:16:58 AM by Phil McDade »

Howard Riefs

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 08:21:04 AM »
Phil,

Thanks for the background on logistics. Is there also a will call before the main entrance were tickets can be left and picked up before entering through the gates? Thx.
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Phil McDade

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 08:35:16 AM »
A few more programming notes based on my day (Wed.) at the Ryder Cup:

-- The practice ranges --one for US, one for Euro -- are on the "backside" of the clubhouse, using fairways from one of the other Medinah courses. Grandstands at each, and there is also a short-game practice area. You have to walk across one of the bridges that cross the lake's tributary to get to these.

-- Most players seem to be using the beautiful putting green that fronts the clubhouse for practice putting. It's likely to be jam-packed. In fact, the area in front of the clubhouse, near the putting green and the 1st tee, is one of the most congested on the course.

-- There are three bridges to cross the lake to get to the holes on the south side of the lake, which is most of the course: near the 1st green/2nd green, near the 13th tee/14th tee, and near the 17th tee/green. The first one -- near the 1st green/2nd green -- could be 10 yards wider and still not be wide enough; it was absolutely jam-packed yesterday morning (admittedly, in part because the first group of the day -- the Mickelson group -- was on the 1st green). If you want to get out to the main portion of the course quickly, I'd suggest finding your way to the 13th tee/14th tee bridge, or the 17th tee/green bridge on the far west edge of the property. (The bridges are also great spots for watching play on the par 3s nearby.) A course map is invaluable, if you're not familiar already with Medinah.

-- Happy to report that booze (and food :D) is plentiful and found throughout the grounds; as always, please drink responsibly. ;) Everything's overpriced, of course, but what'd you expect? It's the Ryder Cup.


Phil McDade

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 08:42:08 AM »
Phil,

Thanks for the background on logistics. Is there also a will call before the main entrance were tickets can be left and picked up before entering through the gates? Thx.

Howard: I didn't check that window to see if that was a service available, so I'm not sure I can answer that (if you mean, can I walk up and leave a ticket for my buddy Joe who's coming later?). The area where you can mill around and wait for friends before you line up to go through security is really quite big, and lots of folks were standing around waiting for friends with tickets. Maybe call with your question and see if anyone answers? http://www.rydercup.com/usa/contact


Howard Riefs

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 09:31:39 AM »
Phil,

Thanks for the background on logistics. Is there also a will call before the main entrance were tickets can be left and picked up before entering through the gates? Thx.

Howard: I didn't check that window to see if that was a service available, so I'm not sure I can answer that (if you mean, can I walk up and leave a ticket for my buddy Joe who's coming later?). The area where you can mill around and wait for friends before you line up to go through security is really quite big, and lots of folks were standing around waiting for friends with tickets. Maybe call with your question and see if anyone answers? http://www.rydercup.com/usa/contact


Thanks, Phil. I'll find out.
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Howard Riefs

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 06:09:41 PM »
Look forward to seeing how the short par 4, 15th hole plays during the matches.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/ryder-cup-2012-medinah-par-4-15th-hole
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Tim_Cronin

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 08:30:13 PM »
Look forward to seeing how the short par 4, 15th hole plays during the matches.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/ryder-cup-2012-medinah-par-4-15th-hole

I'll be shocked if anyone goes for it. Bubba Watson calls it an easy birdie from a layup. The green is too elevated for a runup if it's the slightest bit off line.
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JR Potts

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 09:24:42 PM »
Look forward to seeing how the short par 4, 15th hole plays during the matches.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/ryder-cup-2012-medinah-par-4-15th-hole

I'll be shocked if anyone goes for it. Bubba Watson calls it an easy birdie from a layup. The green is too elevated for a runup if it's the slightest bit off line.

I've played the hole 40+ times....I've hit driver every time....I've hit it in the water twice.

These guys will and should hit driver..especially if the pin is in the front or in the back right...as if it's in the back right, the approach shot is harder than the drive.

Sven Nilsen

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Re: Ryder Cup at Medinah, #3 -- Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2012, 10:33:06 PM »
From Medinah's website:

"Course #3, originally designed for Medinah’s ladies, was completed in 1928. That original Bendelow layout only lasted for three years. A major redesign took place in the early 1930’s."

This old thread adds some color as to what took place in 1932 when the course went through the major overhaul that lead to what we see today:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,25124.0.html

What I can't understand is how a course that was initially designed as the "ladies course" morphed into the championship layout that it is today.  Is this just a mistake in the historical record?  Simply a massive miscalculation in the needs and wants of the club?  Was new land purchased that allowed for a "bigger" course?

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