BUDA XI

[Eric Smith]

David,

I was obviously kidding about the fun. Yours is a BUDA that has to happen! Take Tony Muldoon's advice - allow him to assist you in this endeavor and with that nod of diplomacy my guess is you're well on your way towards an XI tattoo on your shoulder. If the dates work, I'd love to come. Especially if Wardo would shepherd me and allow me to learn his ways.

[Ally Mcintosh]

We had the EIGCA conference in Noordwijk in 2008 and it was a lot of fun. Can't see how it would be anything but a good spot to go. Golf courses are great too...

[David Davis]

David,

I was obviously kidding about the fun. Yours is a BUDA that has to happen! Take Tony Muldoon's advice - allow him to assist you in this endeavor and with that nod of diplomacy my guess is you're well on your way towards an XI tattoo on your shoulder. If the dates work, I'd love to come. Especially if Wardo would shepherd me and allow me to learn his ways.

Thanks Eric, I couldn't of guessed ;-) I also responded with a touch of sarcasm for the record. Plus I'm not trying to run any show, just offering to host to ensure a great time since I have the ability to do so and connections with the clubs and powers that be here in NL.

[Philip Gawith]

I will leave others to settle the location for 2013 and it is hard to argue about Buda going to Ireland,  but if it is not next year then i hope it is not too long before the group takes up David Davis on his offer to take the group to the Netherlands. I think Kennemer/Noordewijk/Royal Hague are a great selection of courses, not to mention some of the heathland style inland courses. Netherlands is definitely a dark horse and i would be amazed if anyone regretted visiting there. As for Huntercombe, happy to help Giles if that is where people want to go. I am sure Mike is right about accommodation.

[James Boon]

Gentlemen,

I've only 3 Buda Cups under my belt so am no expert, but I'd say its heart is in Great Britain (perhaps some post Olympics  patriotism coming to the fore again). Therefore, and for various practical reasons also, my personal preference would be for any overseas Buda to be in alternate years rather than back to back. For instance next year at say Huntercombe, then Ireland, then say Machridhanish, then Holland. I'm not saying I'm not keen to travel, just that there are plenty of years ahead of us and we should spread the fun and stay true to the cups roots? Or am I being a miserable, tight, stick in the mud? 

Please go back to discussing the finer points of the entertainment in Amsterdam... 

Cheers,

James

[Ulrich Mayring]

Or am I being a miserable, tight, stick in the mud?

No, you're just younger than some of us, who wonder if they'll ever make it to the Netherlands

Ulrich

[Michael Whitaker]

Or am I being a miserable, tight, stick in the mud?

No, you're just younger than some of us, who wonder if they'll ever make it to the Netherlands

Ulrich

Amen, brother!

[Tony_Muldoon]

Or am I being a miserable, tight, stick in the mud?

No, you're just younger than some of us, who wonder if they'll ever make it to the Netherlands

Ulrich

 

[Ben Stephens]

Looks like the shortlist for 2013 are:

Huntercombe (single course) - Giles Payne and Philip Gawith

Holland (Noordwijk and Kennemer and possibly Royal Hague) - David Davis and Tony Muldoon

Other nominations can be added


2014 is more or less confirmed as there is a strong majority for - Carne and Enniscrone - Ally McIntosh and Robin Hiseman

[Mark Pearce]

Ben,

Actually I reckon the two firm options for 2013 are Rich and Donal's potential Donegal gig and David's Dutch offering.  If and when Giles confirms that Huntercombe is a real option we can throw that into the mix.  Agreed that Carne looks quite likely in 2014 but experience suggests that we're better off making sure we have a venue for 2013 before we look too far into the future.

[Mark Chaplin]

One of my mates has just joined National Golf Links, how about an away event!!

[Tony_Muldoon]

One of my mates has just joined National Golf Links, how about an away event!!

Thank you for pitching in with that one Mark but it looks like the earliest he can organise it will be 2025, as Boony wants more home Buda's.

[Mark Chaplin]

I'm very sorry I couldn't trump captain Boonster, I'll inform the member to keep 2025 free for Buda XXIV 

[Mark Pearce]

I know this is a joke but, for what it's worth, NGLA would be a dreadful BUDA venue for two reasons.  It's on the wrong continent and it's on just about everybody's bucket list.

[Mark Chaplin]

When we played an 8 a side match at Chicago Golf Club a couple of years ago the percentage of their members playing was like us fielding a team of 65!

Mark - picking a team could be a valuable proposition for the captains.

[John Mayhugh]

I don't have strong opinions about future venues - seems that anywhere being proposed would be great in terms of the golf.

[Tony_Muldoon]

seems that anywhere being proposed would be great in terms of the golf.

John I think everyone pretty much feels that but whats needed is for people to identify their slight preferences or we'll never come to a conclusion

It's great we have so many strong contenders, any one else have any slight preferences?

[Sean_A]

seems that anywhere being proposed would be great in terms of the golf.

John I think everyone pretty much feels that but whats needed is for people to identify their slight preferences or we'll never come to a conclusion

Amen

Ciao

[Ally Mcintosh]

Having only been a one-off BUDA attendant, my preference should hold no weight...

Clearly I'd love - as Robin would - to see it come to Mayo / Sligo in 2014 and therefore I'd like to see it go elsewhere in 2013... I think the Holland offer is a very strong one: It gets people to an area that is often overlooked, even by this group. But I can assure you that the golf is absolutely top-notch and extremely varied... Kennemer, Noordwisjke and Royal Hague are all very different courses.... Plus you're by the beach... and it might even be sunny...

David sounded like a well connected person so if he could manage to put a date and approximate cost on the table then I can't see that it would make anything other than a wonderful weekend...

[Bryan Izatt]

Any of the locations mentioned sound fine to me, but since this is a BUDA I think the final decision should be up to the UKers.  For me it's easier to get to London area than either Ireland or Amsterdam.  More important are the dates - June is better; the first half of September a no-no next year.  If the dates are OK and the prices aren't too outrageous then any of the sites would be fine with this ROWer.

[Ulrich Mayring]

I agree with Bryan. The deciding factor for most BUDAites will be the dates, providing the cost isn't outrageous, which it has never been in the past.

It will not be possible to accommodate all interested parties with respect to date. Some of us will howl and cry. Tough luck, the clubs set the dates.

So I think for the various proposals on the table, if we could hear a date and rough schedule, then "slight preferences" will become a lot stronger

Ulrich

[Eric Smith]

if we could hear a date

My preference

[David Davis]

Just a quick update from my side. Working on dates. BUDA group size dictates that by all the old clubs here I need to turn in official request forms to the club managers even if I'm just trying to get a date option. This is not the US or UK where they will just give you an answer and estimate if you call (although I'm not sure that one of the old private clubs there would do that either for a group this size.)

I will keep you all informed about the Dutch option as it progresses with the help of Tony and Mark who have given all the details and requirements.

I do have an excellent speaker who would love to address the group in Frank Pont who is also a GCA'er. Like the rest of you he too needs dates. The ball is in my court so I just need to get past those 8 ft tall defenders. have to ask a little patience as I'm dealing with Dutch bureaucracy at this stage.

[David Davis]

Just a quick update so that no one thinks I'm not on top of this ;-)

I sat down for coffee with our manager yesterday. He acknowledges receipt of my request and said it will be Mid November before I can get an answer in terms of dates. This has to do with their annual planning. Again a group this size has to fit into all kinds of restrictions. We have club sponsors that get first dibs as well as club medals and since they schedules are not yet made they won't risk suggesting dates.

I'm positive (though not 100% certain) that the rules will be slightly bent. The golf would unfortunately be not in the weekend. It would be on a Monday and Wednesday with another club on Tuesday coming into the mix. I won't chase to get another club until I have defined dates from Noordwijkse and have ran then past everyone here to see if the next step is of interest to everyone.

This is the challenge with working with very private classic clubs here in NL.

Will keep everyone up to date.

[Ulrich Mayring]

Great work David, organising a BUDA event takes quite a commitment.

Ulrich

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