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Tom_Doak

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2012, 01:26:20 PM »
It's the growing season I was thinking of.  Even if the course was fully planted a year from today, opening in "mid-2014" would be pretty amazing.  Maybe (like last year) they could open the first nine holes then.
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Jud_T

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2012, 01:26:36 PM »
When you get both these courses up and running and hopefully some improved management at HL, this will certainly be in the running as the go-to spot for east coaster's golf trips.
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Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2012, 08:02:39 PM »
For years PEI was the go to spot for a golfing vacation in Eastern Canada, I believe that Cape Breton is already challenging PEI if not surpassing it as a go to destination. With the addition of a Cabot Cliffs, game, set and match!
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2012, 08:45:18 PM »
Greg, As I understand the climate, it's much more temperate than people might think. Being hard pressed against the St. Lawrence, keeps it a little warmer than most think Canada could be. A couple winters back they did not even get the ground to freeze. But 9 months sounds pretty close, in my mind, especially if you're trying to plan for staff, food and sundries.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2012, 10:02:56 PM by Adam Clayman »
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Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2012, 08:59:47 PM »
Here is a link to a graph showing the average monthly highs and lows in centigrade.
http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Inverness-weather-averages/Nova-Scotia/CA.aspx
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John McCarthy

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2012, 09:31:05 AM »
Cabot Cliffs of Claven?  




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Sam Morrow

Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2012, 12:53:11 AM »
Quote from: John McCarthy on September 12, 2012, 09:31:05 AM
Cabot Cliffs of Claven?  






'Well Woody, little know fact, due to it's proximity to the Gulf of St. Lawrence and the jet stream Cabot is actually 12% warmer than most of Canada and the northern lights act as an insulator for the ground temperatures."

Better TV mail man, Cliff or Newman?
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2012, 01:35:32 AM »
Quote from: Sam Morrow on September 14, 2012, 12:53:11 AM

Better TV mail man, Cliff or Newman?


And for the other gender... Reba The Mail Lady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN6YEcub5Kk

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Sam Morrow

Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2012, 01:42:59 AM »
Quote from: Howard Riefs on September 14, 2012, 01:35:32 AM
Quote from: Sam Morrow on September 14, 2012, 12:53:11 AM

Better TV mail man, Cliff or Newman?


And for the other gender... Reba The Mail Lady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN6YEcub5Kk



I opened that up, saw Pee Wee and closed it. It looks like Reba, like Pee Wee plays for the other team.
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Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2012, 10:40:30 PM »
In case you haven't read it yet, Robert Thompson has an interesting story on the potential of this course.

http://canadiangolfer.com/g4g/2012/09/27/will-cabot-cliffs-exceed-cabot-links/
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Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2012, 12:26:43 PM »
This short article from the magazine Golf Course Architecture outline some of what has been done so far and the exciting possibilities for the 18th hole.
http://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/Article/Spectacular-site-for-Cabot-Cliffs/2549/Default.aspx
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Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2012, 11:40:35 AM »
Article from Golf Digest on Mike Keiser annoncing the "Green Light" has been given to begin construction of the course. There are some good photos along with the article.
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-courses/blogs/wheres-matty-g/2012/10/mike-keisers-going-forward-wit.html

Also included is a chart with the proposed distances for the 18 holes.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 11:46:08 AM by Don Hyslop »
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Mike Viscusi

Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2012, 12:24:09 PM »
Quote from: Don Hyslop on October 22, 2012, 11:40:35 AM
Article from Golf Digest on Mike Keiser annoncing the "Green Light" has been given to begin construction of the course. There are some good photos along with the article.
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-courses/blogs/wheres-matty-g/2012/10/mike-keisers-going-forward-wit.html

Also included is a chart with the proposed distances for the 18 holes.
The proposed scorecard is pretty interesting.  A lot of things to note:

  • There are two sets of back-to-back par 3's (6/7, 15/16).
  • Both the front and back 9 start and end with par 5's.
  • There is not a single hole that plays between 368 and 416 yards.
  • There are 6 par 3's, 5 par 5's and only 7 par 4's.
  • There's a 4-hole stretch (8-11) in which the shortest hole is 450 yards.
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William_G

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2012, 03:39:50 PM »
 :)
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Jud_T

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2012, 04:22:36 PM »
Quote from: Mike Viscusi on October 22, 2012, 12:24:09 PM

  • There is not a single hole that plays between 368 and 416 yards.


I like it already...
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Chris Newton

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2012, 04:39:02 PM »
Quote from: Mike Viscusi on October 22, 2012, 12:24:09 PM

  • There is not a single hole that plays between 368 and 416 yards.

The wind might have something to say about that!
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 04:41:35 PM by Chris Newton »
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2013, 06:11:14 PM »
Update via Matt Ginella...

Keiser says they will have seven to 10 holes at Cabot Cliffs built by August, with preview play starting in spring 2014. All 18 holes should be open by 2015.

Coore confirmed that although his design partner, Ben Crenshaw, always said he never wanted to work on courses outside of the U.S., that in this particular case, given the property and the upside of the project, that he will be involved.


http://www.golfchannel.com/news/matt-ginella/news-about-bandon-and-cabot-expansion/



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Steve Lapper

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2013, 06:49:34 PM »
Quote from: Howard Riefs on January 21, 2013, 06:11:14 PM
Update via Matt Ginella...

Keiser says they will have seven to 10 holes at Cabot Cliffs built by August, with preview play starting in spring 2014. All 18 holes should be open by 2015.

Coore confirmed that although his design partner, Ben Crenshaw, always said he never wanted to work on courses outside of the U.S., that in this particular case, given the property and the upside of the project, that he will be involved.


http://www.golfchannel.com/news/matt-ginella/news-about-bandon-and-cabot-expansion/





 I think it is a fair consensus from those of us who've walked this property that this could be one of, if not the, most promising sites for golf in this decade. I'm very excited for all those involved and it's great news to see Ben Crenshaw fully involved. Should be fantastic!
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Eric Smith

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2013, 01:39:32 PM »
You gotta see this one..

http://instagram.com/p/eXin1QJY9H/
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Sean Leary

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2013, 01:49:18 PM »
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2013, 01:58:58 PM »
Lots of work on that green... as you can see in Matt's photos of #16 (last fall and now):

http://instagram.com/p/eVzrPVJY1h/

Also, give a look at this cool time-lapse of #16 that C&C shaper Keith Rhebb shot in June:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithrhebb/9081425062/

Keith's Flickr has a good collection of other images from C&C sites, including Cabot Cliffs and Streamsong Red.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithrhebb/

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Michael Whitaker

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2013, 02:37:37 PM »
Quote from: Eric Smith on September 17, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
You gotta see this one..

http://instagram.com/p/eXin1QJY9H/

From my visit in August. Par 5 that ends with the green in your link... hanging over the ocean!



And, the very next hole will be this par 3!!!

« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 02:39:53 PM by Michael Whitaker »
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Michael Whitaker

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2013, 02:46:54 PM »
Quote from: Howard Riefs on September 17, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Lots of work on that green... as you can see in Matt's photos of #16 (last fall and now):

http://instagram.com/p/eVzrPVJY1h/

Also, give a look at this cool time-lapse of #16 that C&C shaper Keith Rhebb shot in June:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithrhebb/9081425062/

Keith's Flickr has a good collection of other images from C&C sites, including Cabot Cliffs and Streamsong Red.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithrhebb/



Bill McBride and I had a beer and good conversation with Keith on the last day of our visit to Cabot. Keith seemed very excited about the prospects for Cabot Cliffs. The target date for the course to fully open is May of 2015. Can't wait to go back!
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Greg Tallman

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2013, 03:40:18 PM »
Quote from: Jud T on October 22, 2012, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: Mike Viscusi on October 22, 2012, 12:24:09 PM

  • There is not a single hole that plays between 368 and 416 yards.


I like it already...

Had never thought about it but our Ocean Course has no holes from 366 to 430. A trio of 4's at 366 or less and 7 at 430 or more.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2013, 04:09:33 PM »
Bill Coore discussed the routing of Cabot Cliffs during his interview today on Morning Drive:

http://www.golfchannel.com/media/sense-direction-coore-course-routing/ 

On Thursday, the show will have another segment about the course.
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