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William_G

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2012, 05:27:17 PM »
It's all about the golf!

JC Jones

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2012, 06:02:02 PM »
Quote from: Bob_Huntley link=topic=51576.msg1180279#msg1180279 date=

JC.

You have no idea the tight shorts I have had to wear.

Bob

I know, I've had to spend time with Mike Sweeney too.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Bob_Huntley

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2012, 06:33:56 PM »
JC,

Gosh, you got the double barrels.

Bob

Colin Macqueen

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2012, 06:35:55 PM »
William,
I grieve for you.
At least at Spanish Bay, in the gloaming, the chances are the gowfers are off the course!
The pipes always sound better from the far side of thae hills!

Cheers Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Carl Johnson

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2012, 06:50:05 PM »
Hey, we have it all the time on our urban club's course.  Just the other day my fourball had to wait to putt on No. 12 until the traffic light changed (so the the traffic could move on) because the "music" (rap, or whatever) coming from a car window at the light was totally out of synch with what you'd want to putt to.  And then there are the days when Vets's Lodge across from No. 14 fairway has their parties with live bands.  On the other hand, the light sounds coming from the ice cream trucks in the adjacent neighborhood during warm weather are quite soothing.

jeffwarne

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2012, 07:48:09 PM »
What is wrong with listening to nature, birds on the wing, the surf crashing  along the shore or the pure silence of being on a course in paradise. Whatever you do don't bring an iPod when you are my guest.

Thanks

Bob

Sorry about what sounds like bad experiences with guests ???

I promise I won't do it again Bob  ;D

The beauty of cargo shorts.
room for the ipod........and the speakers
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

hhuffines

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2012, 08:01:13 PM »
To those who infringe on others' enjoyment of the game, particularly in tournaments, by playing "their" music... I say ahoy polloi!

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2012, 08:06:21 PM »
Last March, my 22 yr. old daughter was diagnosed with cancer.  She is a beautiful young woman who had graduated from college and moved to NYC and was working in publishing on Madison Ave. in a true dream job, and she has been the light of my life since the day she was born.  She has been battling for her life ever since, and the battle continues.

My wife and I flew out of Atlanta on the March 10th of last year, and my wife has been with our daughter continuously since, first in NYC and since August at Duke University Medical Center, where our daughter will undergo her second bone marrow transplant in exactly two weeks.  I, meanwhile, have commuted as often as humanly possible, and lived alone otherwise.

I have spent, over the last year, untold hours walking alone at my club on late afternoons after work to avoid going home to an empty house and all that it signifies.  But I realized quickly that being alone with my thoughts was NOT productive or healthy.  Music combined with golf was my salvation.

Walking for several hours while listening to good music and hitting golf shots as well has been great, great therapy for me.  I won't over-dramatize it say that it has "saved" me; I'm not the one who is sick.  But it is healthy and good and both distracting and engaging at the same time, and just beats the hell out of being alone with the spiders that live in my brain these days.

I used to smile to myself when I saw somebody at the range or on the course with earbuds; I thought that golf should be enough, and questioned their commitment to the game.  Never again; I don't know what is going on in their life and what role golf and music play. And if the combination of the two helps them, God bless 'em.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Chip Gaskins

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2012, 08:12:22 PM »
A.G. - Wow, with lump in throat, I wish you and your family the best.  Your post proves that none of us should take ourselves so serious.  Its a game, enjoy it how you will.  Otherwise, I will be thinking good thoughts for your family.  Best, Chip

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2012, 08:46:18 AM »

AG

I am very sorry to hear of your plight, it is indeed a crying shame and one which shakes the very building blocks of our lives. I feel and understand your pain.

Having said that I question the safety of such comforting aids for whatever reason, as they leave the golfer open to common assault by others both verbally and through the wayward shot. To be injured by a ball because you could not hear the warning shouts is bad enough for you but worst still for the poor player who could not get your attention. If the result of the collision of ball and head resulted in the demise or serious injury of the player, just think about the poor guy responsible for that shot.

There comes a time when we must take responsibility for ourselves and accept that there are places that such actions are just not appropriate.

Are we really free to do what we want or do we need to take on-board that life is a mixed bag and we have to make the best out of the cards we are dealt, by that I mean take responsibility for ourselves and actions. Life is certainly not fair but we try to navigate away from danger in our normal lives and rise to any challenge we encounter, as we do in golf, we do not generally embrace danger giving our families more worry that they are currently facing.

AG no disrespect intended just a potential scenario and possible consequences of innocent actions.

Melvyn

Michael George

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2012, 09:44:16 AM »

Melvyn - that has to be one of the worst posts in the history of golfclubatlas.com and I am not one to call anyone out --- as I am just grateful for the opportunity to post here. 

What could you possibly have meant by saying that "there comes a time when we must take responsibility for ourselves and accept that there are places that such actions are just not appropriate". 

Do you own the golf courses that AG is playing? 
Have you ever been in AG's position?

What we talk about in this discussion group is a passion for all of us - otherwise we would not be here.  But in the grand scheme of things, it is not very important.  What AG is dealing with is simply my worst fear in life.  If given the assurance that my children would remain healthy and live long lives, I would give up golf all together and never think twice.

AG - keep doing whatever gets you through it.  My prayers are with you and your family.





"First come my wife and children.  Next comes my profession--the law. Finally, and never as a life in itself, comes golf" - Bob Jones

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2012, 10:18:59 AM »
Thank you for the advice, Melvyn.  I was hesitant to post that information last night, in part because I knew to a certainty that you would disapprove of my use of music; I realize that this is just who you are.  I know that you don't concede points on this site; that seems to be part of what YOU have to do to get through life, and that's ok with me. 

To reassure you, I am (at age 59) working really hard on "...we need to take on-board that life is a mixed bag and we have to make the best out of the cards we are dealt".  Words to live by...

Also, there is literally NO possible way a lone golfer could be struck by an errant shot from another golfer on my course; the biggest danger to me on that course is that my own ball strikes a tree and then strikes me, or that while I am looking for my ball I find a copperhead or a timber rattler.  But I'm really, REALLY straight off the tee, so that isn't much of a worry either. 

Ironically, I was once not only hit in the head by a golf ball, but actually struck on the ear (while NOT wearing headphones!) on the second hole of a tournament by one of my playing partners.  I have no desire to repeat that experience.

I think I'll be ok, but thanks for the safety warnings.
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"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2012, 10:47:36 AM »

Michael

You have the right to your opinion. I believed I showed and shared my sympathy with AG on his appalling news.

In life we have to take responsibility for all things certainly that which relates to ourselves and our safety as well as wellbeing. Putting on a set of headphones has proven most dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists and motor-bikers. The effect has them removed from the first potential warning of imminent danger. I see nothing outrageous in this nor the rest of my concerns about the instigator of the potential accident, he or she also suffer from the pain of inflicting the hurts, all perhaps for the sake that the victim could not hear any warning due to the music in their ears.

All fair and honest comments not detracting from AG family suffering.

As for the golf course, no I do not know or own it. As to being in AC position, not with my children but siblings, an elder brother dead in his early years and a younger sister who faded away to resemble the pictures of the Belsen/Auschwitz victims fighting hard to survive to the very end – still rips my heart out when I think of her. This is the young sister with whom I played upon the farmland fields today known as St Andrews Castle Course.

"there comes a time when we must take responsibility for ourselves and accept that there are places that such actions are just not appropriate.” A very fair comment I thought and hopefully brings things into perspective.

It’s not just our hurt, but our actions that can perpetuate the effect of pain to others for the sake of just a little bit of consideration for the consequences of our actions.

Melvyn

Michael George

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2012, 10:53:24 AM »

Melvyn - your faint concern for safety on the golf course is silly and clearly seen through.  Would it hurt you to just say - "whatever will get you through this time" (so long as it does not materially impact others).  Honestly, you don't have to be controversial all of the time.
"First come my wife and children.  Next comes my profession--the law. Finally, and never as a life in itself, comes golf" - Bob Jones

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2012, 11:01:47 AM »

Michael

To answer your comments or continue this would is pointless – I forgot, does this site relate to GCA issues, with safety being one of them?

Melvyn

Terry Lavin

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #65 on: March 28, 2012, 11:56:48 AM »
Another cretinous offering.  As always, thanks for your venomous insight.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2012, 11:59:10 AM by Terry Lavin »
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

Kalen Braley

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2012, 12:03:48 PM »
Mel,

Sometimes....


Sam Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2012, 12:06:49 PM »
God Bless you Mr. Crockett.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2012, 12:14:08 PM »


Here come the Lemmings following one another.  :-*

Greg Tallman

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2012, 12:14:57 PM »

There comes a time when we must take responsibility for ourselves and accept that there are places that such actions are just not appropriate.


INDEED! - Who gave you an expemtion?

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2012, 12:19:45 PM »

Greg

This site is about GCA  or is it all about our bad and sad experiences?

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2012, 12:24:42 PM »
Melvyn..
You cannot be serious...is this an early April Fool or something?
If not....it is a very very sad reflection on who you must be...
remind me not to ever look for sollace amongst"friends" on gca...

Greg Tallman

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2012, 12:39:23 PM »

Greg

This site is about GCA  or is it all about our bad and sad experiences?


While the site strives to keep the discussion centered around architecture/design we have migrated to discussing all things golf related.

How golf and music has helped a guy get through a struggle bothers you? Really? To the point of a rambling lecture? Heartless is about tyhe only word that comes to mind and somehow I take it you are OK with that assignation.

Once again I simply ask you to read your own words and then look in the mirror.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2012, 12:59:53 PM »

Thank you Michael

Sorry you missed the bits where I was sorry and understand to the plight AG, his daughter and family have being going through, clearly you missed it. Also that I understand his pain going through a similar experience in which my 30 year old kid sister died leaving two kids of 4 & 8 years of age. I do understand the pain and said so, the subject matter moved on until some decided to ignore my comment and go in feet first fresh from an election victory.

Having said that, this is a site is about GCA not my dead sister or dead brother and lets pray and thank God that AG daughter is still fighting the good fight which I so hope she wins.

Music on the golf course is the subject matter. Hope you and the others have had fun at the expense of my dead siblings noting that AG daughter is still with us. I do very much understand his pain and I know about the suffering of watching a beautiful young and vibrant woman turning into a gaunt shadow of herself i.e. skin stretched over bones, just like the victims of Belsen. I understand it all very well, it was no April fool but life scaring real day after day for over a full year and yes she dies on the 2nd of April.

I certainly will never look to those on this site for solace; you don’t understand the fucking work.

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2012, 02:38:40 PM »
Once again you inappropriately choose to mix tragedy and personal horror to cover your arse for a foolish comment in the first place....who cares if this is a gca site...one of our members was reaching out with his own personal input and YOU choose to tell him that this is not the place....yet to turn right around and do the same thing...make up your pityful mind...no excuses you were simply out of line....please note that no foul language was required....

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