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Jim Colton

Golfweek's Best 2012
« on: March 07, 2012, 05:29:15 PM »
Golfweek's updated top 100's are coming out this week. I don't believe they've been posted online yet, but if you're anxious for a sneak peek you can subscribe to the digital version of this issue for just $1.99. Just a friendly public service announcement. Hopefully no one will post the full list until it's out there publicly.

There's a nice article about Pete Dye and his 50 years in the business.

(if someone has a good link to the subscription page, please post. I can't get away from the mobile version of the site)



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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 05:54:18 PM »
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 05:55:54 PM »
Quote from: Jim Colton on March 07, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
(if someone has a good link to the subscription page, please post. I can't get away from the mobile version of the site)

Yes, it's about time Golfweek have "desktop-version" of their site that can be accessed via mobile.

http://golfweek.com/digital-subscription/
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"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Richard Choi

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 12:23:31 AM »
When did this come out? I tore into my mailbox today when I got home and all I have are a couple of women's catalogs...
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Jud_T

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 10:31:47 AM »
this is driving me nuts.  haven't got the print edition yet, bought one issue of the online edition but that's apparently the next one.  can't they make this thing user friendly?  it's rocket science apparently...Links100 here we come....
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Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 10:51:33 AM »
Top 10 Classic
1. Pine Valley
2. Cypress Point
3. Shinnecock Hill
4. NGLA
5. Oakmont
6. Augusta
7. Merion
8. Fishers Island
9. Pebble Beach
10. Crystal Downs

Newbies
75. Hollywood GC
96. Mountain Ridge

Top 10 Modern
1. Sand Hills
2. Pac Dunes
3. Old Mac
4. Whistling Straits
5. Friars Head
6. Ballyneal
7. Bandon Dunes
8. Sebonack
9. Pete Dye Golf
10. Shadow Creek

Newbies

65. Shelter Harbor
78. Dormie Club
85. Metedeconck
91. Pablo Creek
92. Ocean Forest
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Anthony J. Nysse
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 11:41:01 AM »
Wow, seeing the list like that reminded me that when Bandon Dunes opened in 1999, it was #2 Modern on the GOLFWEEK poll.

The amazing part is that all the courses that have moved in above it have been built since then, except possibly Whistling Straits which opened right around the same time as Bandon Dunes.
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Jud_T

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 11:42:36 AM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on March 08, 2012, 11:41:01 AM
Wow, seeing the list like that reminded me that when Bandon Dunes opened in 1999, it was #2 Modern on the GOLFWEEK poll.

The amazing part is that all the courses that have moved in above it have been built since then, except possibly Whistling Straits which opened right around the same time as Bandon Dunes.

and all of 'em easily deserve it, except possibly Whistling Straights.   ;)
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Terry Lavin

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 12:01:34 PM »
Quote from: Jud Tigerman on March 08, 2012, 11:42:36 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on March 08, 2012, 11:41:01 AM
Wow, seeing the list like that reminded me that when Bandon Dunes opened in 1999, it was #2 Modern on the GOLFWEEK poll.

The amazing part is that all the courses that have moved in above it have been built since then, except possibly Whistling Straits which opened right around the same time as Bandon Dunes.

and all of 'em easily deserve it, except possibly Whistling Straights.   ;)

Oh, don't go all Dr. Gray on us, it's "Straits", and even though it's all manufactured and it's overly infused with sandy eye candy, I think it's just great.
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Brian Potash

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 12:16:05 PM »
Quote from: Jud Tigerman on March 08, 2012, 10:31:47 AM
this is driving me nuts.  haven't got the print edition yet, bought one issue of the online edition but that's apparently the next one.  can't they make this thing user friendly?  it's rocket science apparently...Links100 here we come....

Same problem as Jud.  Frustrating.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 12:18:23 PM »
Quote from: Richard Choi on March 08, 2012, 12:23:31 AM
When did this come out? I tore into my mailbox today when I got home and all I have are a couple of women's catalogs...

Why are you collecting women's catalogs?
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Sean Leary

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 12:21:12 PM »
Can someone put Jud out of his misery and tell him where Kingsley ranked. :)
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Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 12:26:30 PM »
Kingsley #23
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Anthony J. Nysse
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 12:34:44 PM »
Quote from: Anthony_Nysse on March 08, 2012, 12:26:30 PM
Kingsley #23

Progress. Was #26 last year.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 02:24:41 PM »
Anyone see where Chambers Bay ended up?

Did Wine Valley break into the top 100 modern list?
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Mark Johnson

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 02:31:30 PM »
did Kukui'ula  make top 100 modern?
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Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 02:33:12 PM »
Chambers Bay @ #22. Wine Valley @ #84.  Check out the Newbie list
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Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

JC Jones

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 02:37:14 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 08, 2012, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: Richard Choi on March 08, 2012, 12:23:31 AM
When did this come out? I tore into my mailbox today when I got home and all I have are a couple of women's catalogs...

Why are you collecting women's catalogs?


His choice of undergraduate institutions will answer that question.
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2012, 02:39:07 PM »
Quote from: Anthony_Nysse on March 08, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
Chambers Bay @ #22. Wine Valley @ #84.  Check out the Newbie list

Wine Valley was not in the newbie list, because it was in the last top 100. Kalen's bad. It is good to see that it moved from #99 to #84. The raters really screwed up the Palouse Ridge and Wine Valley ratings the first year. They started to correct that last year by deservedly booting Palouse Ridge and moving Wine Valley deservedly up. It is good to see they continue to get this even more righter right.
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"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2012, 02:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 08, 2012, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: Anthony_Nysse on March 08, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
Chambers Bay @ #22. Wine Valley @ #84.  Check out the Newbie list

Wine Valley was not in the newbie list, because it was in the last top 100. Kalen's bad. It is good to see that it moved from #99 to #84. The raters really screwed up the Palouse Ridge and Wine Valley ratings the first year. They started to correct that last year by deservedly booting Palouse Ridge and moving Wine Valley deservedly up. It is good to see they continue to get this even more righter right.


Understood. That comment was regarding Kukuiula
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Anthony J. Nysse
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Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Bruce Wellmon

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2012, 02:48:36 PM »
Quote from: Anthony_Nysse on March 08, 2012, 10:51:33 AM
Newbies

65. Shelter Harbor
78. Dormie Club
85. Metedeconck
91. Pablo Creek
92. Ocean Forest

I'm rather fond of Dormie. Pleased to see it move up.
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Greg Holland

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2012, 03:05:20 PM »
If I recall, Ocean Forest had slid steadily down the rankings, and fell out last year.  Have changes been made -- why the resurgence?
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George Freeman

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2012, 03:10:16 PM »
Quote from: Greg Holland on March 08, 2012, 03:05:20 PM
If I recall, Ocean Forest had slid steadily down the rankings, and fell out last year.  Have changes been made -- why the resurgence?

A couple raters played it and liked it ;)
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2012, 04:03:37 PM »
Some good movement among the newbies.  Most impressive is Metedeconck, a RTJ Sr. design that was unranked last year.


Classic

75. Hollywood GC         (2011 ranking 103)
96. Mountain Ridge       (104)


Modern

65. Shelter Harbor        (111)
78. Dormie Club            (101)
85. Metedeconck           (N/A)
91. Pablo Creek            (123)
92. Ocean Forest          (108)
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PCCraig

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Re: Golfweek's Best 2012
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2012, 04:19:06 PM »
Anyone know if they are listing 100 courses for Classic/Modern, or 200 as they did last year?
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