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Bill Brightly

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The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« on: February 10, 2012, 11:57:58 AM »
Not a new topic, but since the pros are playing there this week and I just figured out how to post google earth images... I thought it would be nice to view the changes to this hole. I trust we all agree the changes were good.

Before


After


Jason Topp

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 12:11:43 PM »
Thanks Bill!  I'm not sure whether or not the changes are universally viewed as good but I cannot remember what the criticisms were.

Also - could you share how to post google earth images?  I have wanted to post such images before but have never figured out how to do it.

Kalen Braley

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 12:16:04 PM »
Jason,

He took screenshots, saved them off, and then uploaded them to photobucket.  If you right click on the photo and select "view image info" you can see the link.

Kalen

Jason Topp

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 12:18:29 PM »
Thanks Kalen.  I have never figured out how you take a screenshot.

Bill_McBride

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 12:19:33 PM »
Jason,

He took screenshots, saved them off, and then uploaded them to photobucket.  If you right click on the photo and select "view image info" you can see the link.

Kalen

Kalen, but how do you "take and save the screenshots?"

Kalen Braley

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 12:23:16 PM »
Here's my 10 step process!!  Oops 11 steps!!  ;D

1) Open Google Maps in a Browser and get the view you want to share.
2) Make sure the browser is the "active" window on your desktop by clicking on it
3) Then do Ctrl+Alt+PrtScn on your keyboard
4)  Open Paint.exe and paste it in.
5)  Then you can crop it or do whatever u like
6)  Save it off on your machine as a .jpeg file.
7)  From there, open your photobucket account in a new browser window.
8)  Select your album and hit the upload button which will let you browse to where the .jpeg is on your machine.
9)  Select the phone and now the image will be on the internet
10)  Click on the "IMG Code" just below the thumbnail in Photobucket and its now copied
11)  Paste that link into a post on GCA.com and you have it!
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 12:25:39 PM by Kalen Braley »

Brian Ross

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 12:24:08 PM »
If you use a PC, somewhere on your keyboard will be a button that says Print Screen or prt sc.  Mine is located beside the delete key, using the Function + Home keys.  After you do this, you can go and paste the image in either Photoshop or MS Paint and trim off what you don't want.  Then just save it as a .jpg.  

There is also a little program that you can add to Firefox called Screengrab...just Google it.  It's pretty useful because you can take images from Google Maps and make them really high res.

Thanks Kalen.  I have never figured out how you take a screenshot.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 12:31:11 PM »
Since Jason asked about saving images from Google Earth (not maps), there is a simpler approach.  Just click on file, click on save on the drop down menu, and then save image.  Or alternatively ask your son!


Bill, the more recent aerial no doubt looks better.  I have only seen the 2009 bunkering in person.  My issue with it is all the little tufts of grass planted around and between the left fairway bunkers.

Tom Kelly

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 12:43:39 PM »
Jason,

In Google Earth you can save the images as jpeg's by clicking file>save>save image. Then you can post it as you normally would a picture.

Stewart Naugler

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 03:10:33 PM »

Tom Walsh

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 03:49:08 PM »
FYI--screenshot on a Mac  command-shift-3 at the same time. Mine saves the image to the desktop.

Love the aerials
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Bob_Huntley

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2012, 05:46:56 PM »
I made mention a couple of weeks ago that I watched the movie, National Velvet, for the very first time. A bunch of shots were taken at Pebble Beach and  one of them appeared, to me at least, to be of the sixth hole sans left side bunkers. Do we have a boffin here to see if I was right?

Bob

P.S. The movie was first shown in 1944.

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2012, 06:08:01 PM »
I am not wild about the new trap design. However the effort to create a non rough hazard that tightens the fairway keeps the hole slightly more honest as a par 5. The rough is just as effective, but like the visual of playing of the edge of the trap.

Alex Miller

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 06:14:41 PM »


The mow line on the left side seems different in this photo than from the aerial. I like the aerial and I love this hole.

David Kelly

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2012, 07:01:58 PM »
I like the mowing line all along the right side of of the hole as it looks like golfers will no longer be aided by large areas of heavy rough keeping their ball from going over the cliffside.
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Anthony Gray

Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2012, 09:09:47 PM »
The trees down the right were beautiful.

  Anthony


Matt_Cohn

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 01:35:08 AM »


This was the narrowed, US Open rough line. Not the normal line. You can tell it's the US Open from all the green tents and grandstands.

Tom Birkert

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2012, 05:51:12 AM »
I didn't like the old bunker on 6, it was a pseudo bastardised Church Pews look to my eye.

I have a major issue with the bunkers in the rough on the far side of the 3rd fairway. Absolutely no idea why they were put there.

Ian Andrew

Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2012, 10:51:25 AM »
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« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 11:06:54 AM by Ian Andrew »

Kalen Braley

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2012, 12:12:47 PM »
While I haven't played it...

The changes seem for the better in my mind.

1)  Re-shaped fairway bunkers that look more natural
2)  Bunker cluster moved further into the fairway, bringing the cliff edge more into play
3)  Tree removal opens up the views

Whats not to like about it?

P.S.  It certainly plays better than the version Mucci envisions....   ;D


« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 12:16:50 PM by Kalen Braley »

William_G

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2012, 03:51:15 PM »
erosion issues were cropping up on the right side... so loss of trees and narrower fairway....gunnite used to shore up cliff all along the landing area for the tee shot, but still looks kind of like like rock, as has been done elsewhere, eg,  #9, 10, 17 and 18
« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 04:18:42 PM by William Grieve »
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Carl Rogers

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 07:55:41 AM »
Question: What is the approx elevation change between the lower and upper fairways?

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David_Elvins

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Re: The 6th at Pebble, before and after
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2012, 08:32:05 AM »
Question: What is the approx elevation change between the lower and upper fairways?

Not sure what it is on raw numbers but it is a lot more than what it looks in photos.  It is quite daunting to see it in person.  Someone with better google map skills than me might be able to give you a number. 



And here is the awful previous version of th left side bunker.  Must have been the worst bunkers on a top 10 course?

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