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Jim Eder

Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2012, 11:48:04 AM »
It seems to me that LA North deserves more attention and discussion. The recent work is spectacular. The course within a course and the flexibility is exciting and wonderful. The "Little 17" is wonderful to see in person. Lost has been found on the course and I hope it has raised the bar for other clubs to strive towards.  I know it is an access issue for many sadly so most have not had the honor to have seen it but it is really worth a good study and discussion in my opinion. The Walker Cup in 2017 will really highlight the brilliance in this course I believe and I think many on this site will sing the praises after that presentation (and hopefully even sooner).

Here is the link to the excellent piece on the club's website educating about the restoration. https://www.thelacc.org/files/NorthCourse_Commemorative_Edition.pdf

Pete Blaisdell

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2012, 09:49:36 AM »
Up here in my neck of the woods, perhaps, a little attention should be paid to:
 
         Winchester CC
         Taconic
         Wianno
         Kernwood
         Blue Hill
         Brae Burn
         Longmeadow
         Manchester cc
         Nashua
         Bald Peak
' Golf courses are like wives and the prom queen doesn't always make for the best wife "

Mike Hendren

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2012, 11:11:49 AM »
Nairn.    Outstanding but something of an ugly duckling, perhaps?

(Haven't played it).

Bogey
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Jud_T

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2012, 11:35:23 AM »
Kingswood Golf Club, Wolfboro, NH. 
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Michael George

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2012, 07:08:16 PM »

Brookside in Canton, Ohio.  Best course in Northeast Ohio in my humble and rookie opinion.  My favorite Ross to date - playing new Pinehurst #2 in October so may not last the year.  Just amazing greens.

"First come my wife and children.  Next comes my profession--the law. Finally, and never as a life in itself, comes golf" - Bob Jones

Jed Peters

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2012, 07:57:38 PM »
Without a doubt jasper park golf course. Nary a thread, and it is one of the top courses I have ever played.

Howard Riefs

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2012, 09:13:05 PM »
Old Sandwich
LACC
Greywalls
Wolf Point
The Golf Club
Pete Dye GC
Boston GC
Camargo
Milwaukee CC
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2012, 10:59:37 PM »
Johns Island West... might just be on the best topography in Florida.  I loved it and I'm not alone in thinking it should get more discussion:

Mr. Fazio told me in 1986 that he thought Johns Island West was one of his most underrated courses, and that I would agree with ... I liked it a lot. (7.)  
















Patrick_Mucci

Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2012, 11:04:21 PM »
Quote
5 at The Country Club This course gets no discussion on the site, which, frankly, sucks.

I agree. The Country Club is a Top 30 golf course in the country, has hosted many national tournaments, is well known....yet no one talks about it on Golf Club Atlas. Why is that?

Pat,

Possibly because TCC isn't viewed as a pure 18 hole golf course, rather a hybrid or mongrelized assortment taken from 3 seperate nines, where some of the holes are combinations of holes along with the fact that some of the holes have their tees moved and par changed.

That's about as gimmickie as you can get.

Ridgewood, in NJ also has three nines and yes they mongrelize the course for a PGA event, but, the merits of the individual nines are sufficient enough to qualify the course for a top 100 rating.


What other courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?

John_Conley

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2012, 12:24:28 AM »
Bravo Mark, one of my ALL-TIME faves.  Best approach shot to an 18th green of anywhere I've played with the clubhouse up above.

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2012, 03:10:33 AM »
Surely the changes to TCC are for championships to lengthen the course and create a hospitality area. 11, 12 & 13 are fine holes especially the short drop par 3. I feel I've missed nothing playing the normal rather than championship course & I have played the Primrose set up as well.
Cave Nil Vino

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2012, 06:12:13 AM »
I'd like to see some photo reviews or discussion on,

Royal Lytham & St. Annes
Royal Birkdale
Connemara
Cherry Hills
Baltusrol
Oakmont
Machrie
Machrihanish
Royal St. David's
Merion (it's mentioned a hell of a lot, but I haven't seen any photos)
TOC (Sean's recent photo tour didn't get the attention it warranted)

Sean_A

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2012, 06:56:15 AM »
Donal

Just for you.

Merion

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,34519.0.html

Harlech

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,33937.0.html

Somebody mentioned Camargo - for sure. 

SNaugler - please do a tour of Franklin Hills.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2025: Ludlow, Machrihanish Dunes, Dunaverty and Carradale

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2012, 09:37:39 AM »
Johns Island West is a wonderful track, with topography like Jupiter Hills.







Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Tim Nugent

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2012, 10:38:53 AM »
Indian Creek in North Miami. As an ultra private Flynn course, I doubt mauch if anything has been changed. I also wonder if Dick Wilson had a hand in it during construction.
Coasting is a downhill process

Mark Bourgeois

Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2012, 11:01:10 AM »
Nobody ever posts about one of the dozen most strategic courses built in the last 60 years as Morrissett writes in his profile.

It's maybe the best example of how little effort, and how great reward, is required to adopt links features and principles for any type of course, even or I should say especially modern, cartball courses. Makes you realize just how big the design misses are on so many post-ww2 efforts.

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2012, 11:55:27 AM »
Donal

Just for you.

Merion

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,34519.0.html

Harlech

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,33937.0.html

Somebody mentioned Camargo - for sure. 

SNaugler - please do a tour of Franklin Hills.

Ciao

Thanks Sean. Those photos of Merion are not what I would have expected; the architecture has an element of old fashioned Britishness about it. I hope to play it some day.

Mac has posted some photos of Batusrol. Excellent!!

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2012, 12:23:49 PM »
Surely the changes to TCC are for championships to lengthen the course and create a hospitality area. 11, 12 & 13 are fine holes especially the short drop par 3. I feel I've missed nothing playing the normal rather than championship course & I have played the Primrose set up as well.


Where do you think the two nines should be ranked ?

What combination of nines do you feel is the best, and where should they be ranked ?

Mac Plumart

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2012, 01:50:57 PM »
Shivas, I played out there and was informed that the club would appreciate it if the pictures taken wouldn't make their way to the internet (or at least very few of them).

I am on board with you about the course.  Really great members course.  If you start the topic, I'll add my 2 cents...I think it would make a great topic.
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Mark Johnson

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2012, 02:23:37 PM »
my list

- Somerset (MN)   old school Raynor  (i even like it better than Yale) and one of the best in Minnesota

- Black Sheep --  If I ever move back to Chicago, this is where I would want to play

- Oakland Hills -- great old school course

- Whilsting Straits (Irish course):   Always overlooked, but from a pure golf perspective, think it offers more strategy than its older brother

- Spring Hill (MN)-- probably not discussed because access is so hard, but my favorite Fazio by quite a large margin and the only Minnesota course that could make a legit claim for top 30 US course  (Not saying it should be top 30, but it should be in the discussion)



Dan Kelly

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #70 on: January 30, 2012, 11:05:08 AM »
- Spring Hill (MN)-- probably not discussed because access is so hard, but my favorite Fazio by quite a large margin and the only Minnesota course that could make a legit claim for top 30 US course  (Not saying it should be top 30, but it should be in the discussion)

Mark --

I've never played Spring Hill, so I'm certainly not challenging your assertion. But I wonder:

What does Spring Hill have that Interlachen, White Bear, Northland, Hazeltine do not have?

Dan
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"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

John Mayhugh

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #71 on: January 30, 2012, 11:56:55 AM »

- Somerset (MN)   old school Raynor  (i even like it better than Yale) and one of the best in Minnesota


If it's anything close to as good as Yale, I need to get back up to MSP. 

Mac Plumart

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #72 on: January 31, 2012, 10:12:39 PM »
Donal

Just for you.

Merion

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,34519.0.html

Harlech

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,33937.0.html

Somebody mentioned Camargo - for sure. 

SNaugler - please do a tour of Franklin Hills.

Ciao

Thanks Sean. Those photos of Merion are not what I would have expected; the architecture has an element of old fashioned Britishness about it. I hope to play it some day.

Mac has posted some photos of Batusrol. Excellent!!

Donal...no interest on that Baltursol thread.  Sorry.  Too bad. 

Shivas...I'm with you on Old Elm.  Again, if you start it...I'll add on.
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Niall Hay

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2012, 05:35:41 PM »
I will post a photo tour of Franklin Hills, Orchard Lake, and Oakland Hills if you guys are interested in discussing them.

Did you ever post the Orchard Lake photo tour?

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Which courses deserve more attention and discussion on GCA?
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2012, 05:44:27 PM »
I will post a photo tour of Franklin Hills, Orchard Lake, and Oakland Hills if you guys are interested in discussing them.

Did you ever post the Orchard Lake photo tour?

Niall,

I'd be happy to post an Orchard Lake photo tour (when I am finished the CC of Florida photo tour).