In the mid 80s I used to play in The Bideford Bay Foursomes with a 12 hcp partner, think I was off 3 or 4 then. 1 round is at Westward Ho! and the other on the East course at Saunton, the 36 hole event attracts about 200 pairs. It was crazy windy and as we arrived at WH on the Saturday miday and some scores were in, the lowest being 6 points, the highest was 19. We were out in the afternoon and had 24 on the Saturday but 29 was the best so we were not far out really, our playing partners had 6 points! 14 blobs and a chip in 3 pointer on the 14th.The 13th that day was a 440 yard par 4 and I had to hit a 4 iron fourth shot after 3 good woods, so that was how windy it was, you could not tee the ball up and on the 17th, we started our swings from the top as it was too windy to draw the club back. The next day my partner hit a good low un off the 1st at Saunton, and I hit a great second shot that was never higher than the flag to 8 feet. For the tournament they play that as a par 5 so with a shot we had an eight footer for 5 points, it was slightly above the hole, he just touched the ball it lipped out but continued wind assisted off the green and even a few yards off, a series of backwards and fowards chipping and putts meant we never scored a point....needless to say we did not win but those conditions were the very worsed I have played in. 17 @ WH was a drive 8 iron, I had never got anywhere near it in two before.