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Pete Garvey

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Robert White
« on: November 19, 2011, 12:01:44 PM »
I started in the golf business as a caddie at the Cincinnati Country Club which was designed by Robert White.  The course and club are very nice.  Albeit short but nonetheless many enjoyable holes.  After turning professional, I had the opportunity to play Oakmont back in the late 80’s.  While in Pittsburgh, we also played Fox Chapel, Pittsburgh Field Club and Longue Vue Club which just happens to be designed by Robert White.  Longue Vue was a complete surprise to me.  What a great golf course!

I was curious what other GCA’ers think about Robert White’s course?  Other than being born in St. Andrews Scotland and being the first national president of the PGA of America it seems little is talked about him.  My research shows that he designed little over a dozen courses in the United States.  Has anyone played a Robert White course?  Thoughts? Opinions?

PG

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Robert White
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 05:19:45 PM »
« Last Edit: November 19, 2011, 05:21:25 PM by Ronald Montesano »
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Pete Garvey

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Re: Robert White
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 12:41:43 PM »
I enjoyed Buck Hill Falls a few years back...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._White_%28golfer%29

My images are here:  http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f140/buffalogolfer/Buck%20Hill/


Ronald,

Thanks for the photos from Buck Hill.  My research shows that Buck Hill was built by Ross in 1915.  I see that in your wiki link it lists it as a White course.  I'm wondering if you or anyone else knows if White had his hand in a renovation or was he involved with Ross in the creation of the course?

PG

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Robert White
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 08:04:05 PM »
Ross did the third nine at BHF.
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Peter Sayegh

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Re: Robert White
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 05:26:51 AM »
Pete,
I grew up next door to Manasquan River GC in Brielle, NJ. Back then I had no idea (or interest) of the architect. MRGC is a tale of two courses. The front nine sits on land that is heavily treed and rolling with some demanding uphill shots while most of the back heads to and away from the river and is rather flat.
My biggest impressions of the course were the rather bland (read: flattish) greens and the monotony of the holes by the river, i.e., straight up then straight back. The three par threes are challenging. Matt Ward, who used to post, I believe has played it more recently.
I don't know how much of the original design is intact. I don't think the routing has been changed at all though some angles have been tweaked. Some greens have been shifted slightly and changed in size. I know they have completely relocated the sixteenth green, placing it closer to the river. I have not seen it in person but am sure it's an improvement. I would be surprised if ten percent of the bunkering is original. Between Google Earth's time lapse and the photos from Historicalaerials.com, it appears that MRGC has never been shy about experimenting with bunker placement.
You can check their website. The flyover tour is spotty and the course tour sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
Peter

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