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Kin Britton

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PGA Leaderboard
« on: August 13, 2011, 06:17:53 PM »
While not necessarily an indictment of AAC, the PGA can"t be too enthusiastic over the leaderboard.  Hoping for better on Sunday but not a compelling reason to watch.  My personal opinion but just another long course with a bunch of rough and bunkers.  Not exactly compelling golf.

JESII

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 06:25:40 PM »
Can't disagree Kin, but I hope the PGA and USGA don't see any correlation between quality, strategic architecture and presentation and top players filling the leaderboard.

Kin Britton

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 06:33:18 PM »
You may be (and probably are) correct.  My issue seems to be where the British Open course bring more players into play, the PGA and US Open seem to be more of the same...who hits it straight, scrapes it on to the green and two putts.  Of course my bias to links courses is way over the top so I have become somewhat un-enamored with the direction of golf in the US.  Even Augusta (until this year) was falling into the how hard can we make it trap.

JESII

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2011, 06:38:48 PM »
In that context, I would have thought this leaderboard would be interesting...seems to be a wide range of styles and resumes. But the television sure is underwhelming...

Mac Plumart

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 07:24:51 PM »
Who thinks Keegan Bradley is the real deal?  He looks like it.  Could this be his coming out party?
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Chris Johnston

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 07:29:04 PM »
Who thinks Keegan Bradley is the real deal?  He looks like it.  Could this be his coming out party?

I've played a bit with Keegan in Jackson Hole.  His dad (Mark) is the pro at JHG&T. 

Keegan has all the tools and is a very calm and cool customer.  He would make a great Champion but there is a ton of golf ahead.

Carl Johnson

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 07:34:43 PM »
I've some interest in Verplank and Stricker, but not enough to compel me to watch.  If I watch golf on TV at all tomorrow, it will be the Womens' Am from RICC, but I'm more likely to go to go out to a movie.  (I did watch the last hour, 4 - 5:20 or so of the Women's Am on the Golf Channel today).  "The Help" looks like it would be worth $7 or so, or maybe "The Last Mountain," about mountain top mining in West Virginia (the state formerly know as "The Mountain State").

Dan_Callahan

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2011, 07:37:06 PM »
The combination of a boring course and what will almost certainly be a one-hit-wonder champion has made this one of the least interesting majors in recent history. I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now this tournament is remembered more for the complete disintegration of Tiger than for who actually won the thing.

Wade Whitehead

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2011, 07:41:54 PM »
Kin:

In your opinion, who deserves to be at the top of the leaderboard?

WW

Carl Johnson

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2011, 07:45:00 PM »
Kin:

In your opinion, who deserves to be at the top of the leaderboard?

WW

I'm not Kin.  But the guy(s) with the lowest score after three rounds deserve to be at the top.  That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Kalen Braley

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2011, 07:51:44 PM »
Was David Toms a one hit wonder?

He won it here last time.  One more major win on his resume and he's likely going in to the HoF !!

jonathan_becker

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2011, 07:54:59 PM »
No offense to Brendan Steele, but I can't even watch that guy swing the club.

jeffwarne

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2011, 07:59:10 PM »
Can't disagree Kin, but I hope the PGA and USGA don't see any correlation between quality, strategic architecture and presentation and top players filling the leaderboard.

What was the last course a major was played on that the treehouse considered to be strategic archutecture?

"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

John Kavanaugh

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2011, 08:08:38 PM »
You may be (and probably are) correct.  My issue seems to be where the British Open course bring more players into play, the PGA and US Open seem to be more of the same...who hits it straight, scrapes it on to the green and two putts.  Of course my bias to links courses is way over the top so I have become somewhat un-enamored with the direction of golf in the US.  Even Augusta (until this year) was falling into the how hard can we make it trap.

What!!!  No tournament in the history of golf has had more dud champions than the Open.  Jeeze.

Sam Morrow

Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2011, 10:04:37 PM »
Can't disagree Kin, but I hope the PGA and USGA don't see any correlation between quality, strategic architecture and presentation and top players filling the leaderboard.

What was the last course a major was played on that the treehouse considered to be strategic archutecture?




Oh now you're starting trouble? ;D

Matthew Rose

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2011, 10:34:54 PM »
Yep... I lost interest almost completely about halfway into the back nine.
American-Australian. Trackman Course Guy. Fatalistic sports fan. Drummer. Bass player. Father. Cat lover.

cary lichtenstein

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2011, 10:58:15 PM »
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I am enjoying this tournament. Tomorrow will be a great test of nerves and the final 4 holes hold tons of excitement. For once, you have to hit the ball in the fairway. The par 3, 15th I think it is, is a real challenge for the pros, just like for us normal guys, and it's kind of fun watching these guy hit it in the water.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Sam Morrow

Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2011, 10:59:29 PM »
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I am enjoying this tournament. Tomorrow will be a great test of nerves and the final 4 holes hold tons of excitement. For once, you have to hit the ball in the fairway. The par 3, 15th I think it is, is a real challenge for the pros, just like for us normal guys, and it's kind of fun watching these guy hit it in the water.

This might be the most sensible thing anyone has written on this event.

William_G

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 12:15:23 AM »
The combination of a boring course and what will almost certainly be a one-hit-wonder champion has made this one of the least interesting majors in recent history. I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now this tournament is remembered more for the complete disintegration of Tiger than for who actually won the thing.

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William_G

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 12:17:48 AM »
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I am enjoying this tournament. Tomorrow will be a great test of nerves and the final 4 holes hold tons of excitement. For once, you have to hit the ball in the fairway. The par 3, 15th I think it is, is a real challenge for the pros, just like for us normal guys, and it's kind of fun watching these guy hit it in the water.

Nicely said.
It's all about the golf!

Jim Nugent

Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2011, 12:33:50 AM »
Leaderboard looks fine to me.  Two of the top three-ranked golfers in the hunt.  A former champion there, Furyk close by, one of the contenders for "best golfer never to win a major" a few strokes back, Phil prowling, plus a guy (Schwartzel) who is contending in most majors these days. 

This is not an indictment of the course.  Golf has no players who really dominate now.  If you doubt that, look at who won the majors these past few years, or what the biggest number of PGA events anyone has won during that time is. 

Sam Morrow

Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2011, 12:38:58 AM »
It really is a nice leaderboard, Steele has a win this year as does Bradley so I don't want to hear the stuff about them coming out of the blue. Dufner is also a solid player who had a Top 5 last year at Whistling Straits. Put Tiger or Phil in the top 3 and people are talking about it being a great leaderboard.

We were spoiled the last decade plus to have someone like Tiger, or Vijay, Ernie, etc who always seemed to be up there. Golf will be fine, we are looking at the next Vijays and Ernies.

Jud_T

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2011, 09:38:48 AM »
I'm actually interested in some of these guys.  You wanted the Bomb and Gouge set to get their comeupance?  Well this is what you get.    Some nice story lines.  And you gotta love how quickly Dufner and Bradley play.
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Dan_Callahan

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2011, 09:41:09 AM »
Looking at the leaderboard again this morning, it really is a murderer's row for the all-boring team. It'll be interesting to see what the tv ratings look like after Sunday's play. It isn't until you get to Adam Scott that you find a player with some charisma/intrigue. The only hope for excitement is an epic trainwreck or some sort of dumb-ass Dustin Johnson-type mistake. But there are so few decisions to make on that bland layout that it's hard to envision a scenario where that could actually happen. Looking forward to the 2012 Masters.

William_G

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Re: PGA Leaderboard
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2011, 10:15:45 AM »
Looking at the leaderboard again this morning, it really is a murderer's row for the all-boring team. It'll be interesting to see what the tv ratings look like after Sunday's play. It isn't until you get to Adam Scott that you find a player with some charisma/intrigue. The only hope for excitement is an epic trainwreck or some sort of dumb-ass Dustin Johnson-type mistake. But there are so few decisions to make on that bland layout that it's hard to envision a scenario where that could actually happen. Looking forward to the 2012 Masters.

Dan,

LOL

Are you a golfer??? Bland???

The young guys just smash it or mangle it (Feherty), not exciting?

#6 Drivable par 4...

Thanks
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