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Cliff Hamm

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Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« on: July 23, 2011, 07:36:17 PM »

   

If there is any further evidence needed as to the ignorance of the average golfer as to golf course architecture here it is.  I don't pretend to have the knowledge of many on this site.  Nor have I played the 'greats' that many have played.  But this list is unbelievable.  Altho I do have a soft spot for Newport National, which is a superb public course is it really one of the best in the country???


   


In this week's, 'A Quick Nine,' feature, we asked our PGA.com Facebook fans to identify their favorite, "links-style," course in the U.S. It's one of the most passionate debates we've seen around here in a while with nearly 300 responses thanks to all of you!

Without further adieu, and for what's sure to spark more spirited debate, here are the top-9 links-style courses in the U.S., according to you:

9. Pebble Beach Golf Links. You had to know this was making the list, right? It's played host to six major championships (five U.S. Opens and one PGA Championship). Even people who aren't into golf know what you're talking about when you say, "Pebble Beach."

Facebook fan quotes:

"Best links course has to be Pebble Beach. It only takes one glimpse from the tee at the short par-3 7th to prove this is true." -- Jake Jones

"No doubt Pebble Beach!" -- Larry Luper

"Pebble Beach is possibly the nicest course of any type in the US. Clearly the nicest links course by default." -- Seth Kennedy

8. Newport National Golf Club in Middletown, R.I. OK, in the interest of full disclosure, as a native Rhode Islander, I was delighted to see Newport National make the list. I've played there a handful of times and it is unlike anything else around here -- an absolute delight to play. There isn't a bad hole out there. Each time I arrive at NN after a 30-minute drive from my home, the look and feel makes me believe I should have traveled several thousand miles to get there. What a treat.

Facebook fan quote:

"Newport National in Middletown, R.I." -- Tim Dawson

7. Shinnecock Hills Golf Club, Shinnecock Hills, N.Y. Interesting to note that Shinnecock has hosted four U.S. Opens in three different centuries. It's been around for quite some time!

Facebook fan quote:

"Shinnecock Hills. The closest thing there is to a 'TRUE' Links course in the U.S." -- Simon Dewsbury

6. The Ocean Course at Kiawah Island, S.C. Remember the 1991 Ryder Cup? It was one of the most hotly contested Ryder Cup matches in the event's history, with the U.S. squeaking out a one-point victory. It will also host the 2012 PGA Championship.

Facebook fan quotes:

"The Ocean Course at Kiawah is the best." -- Patrick Belk

"Ocean course @ Kiawah. Tough challenge any day. Wind changes direction and speed on every shot." -- Howard Artrip

"If you consider it a true links-style course then The Ocean Course at Kiawah is just phenomenal." -- Patrick Shanley

5. Chambers Bay, University Place, Wash. It hosted the 2010 U.S. Amateur and will also host the 2015 U.S. Open. Most of the time when you think "links style" you might also think "old." That's not so with Chamber's Bay, which opened in 2007.

Facebook fan quotes:

"Chambers Bay! That's top-shelf American links golf!" -- Matt Clark

"Home of the 2015 U.S. Open Chambers Bay is the best links course in the U.S. You feel like you're in Scotland!!" -- Travis Hannula

4. Bandon Dunes Golf Resort, Bandon Dunes, Ore. This was by far the overwhelming favorite among our readers.

Facebook fan quotes:

"Bandon Dunes in Oregon!" -- Samantha Gotcher

"Bandon Dunes the closest links style course this side of the Atlantic." -- Arthur Kelsch

"Hands down... Bandon Dunes." -- Mike Mabini

"The Bandon courses. The only 'true links' courses in the U.S." -- Mark Staben

"Bandon Dunes Golf Resort. When watching The Open last weekend, I thought I was watching golf at Old MacDonald on several occasions. The same could be said for the Bandon and Pacific Dunes courses." -- Jim Johnson

"Bandon Dunes no question about it. I'm from Aberdeen, Scotland so I'm spoiled, the east coast of Scotland is the best stretch of coastline for links golf in the world, but lived in Vancouver for a few years and played in Oregon often and it's fantastic!" -- Mark Rennie

3. Erin Hills, Wisc. It will host the 2017 U.S. Open.

Facebook fan quote:

"Erin Hills in Erin, WI." -- Josh Kohnhorst

2. Whistling Straits in Kohler, Wisc. It's hosted a couple of PGA Championships now and when you're on the grounds, it's another one of those places that just takes your breath away because it's so different from what we're used to in the U.S.

Facebook fan quotes:

"Straits course at Whistling Straits. Not even a toss up." -- Joe Wetrich

"Whistling Straits, Kohler, WI." -- John Blaguski

1. Nags Head Golf Links, N.C. Here's the website description: At Nags Head Golf Links, Nags Head, North Carolina, you'll discover a true Scottish links-style championship course nestled into the natural, windswept environment of the Outer Banks where sand dunes and rugged coastline create a different golfing experience.




Ronald Montesano

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2011, 07:44:09 PM »
Faulty question is my guess..."Links-style" does not mean "pure links." If they had responded with Augusta National or Trump Interplanetary or Sahalee, you would be on the mark. Every one of the courses you mentioned has some element of fast and firm, making them proper answers to your question.

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Cliff Hamm

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2011, 08:15:17 PM »
It's not just the matter of links style.  Is there anyone here who thinks Nag's Head is better than Shinnecock?

Jamie Van Gisbergen

Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 09:52:48 PM »
I almost didn't find this list horribly disagreeable until #1. Obviously populated with public courses as one would expect with a poll like this but Nags Head at 1 is...I really can't find the words to describe it. I have played Nags Head several times and it's as far from a real links as I can think of.  Just shows what the public really knows about links golf.

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2011, 06:35:50 AM »
If you did a Best UK golf course, on a poll of average people you might see The Belfry close to the top, maybe even top. Remember GCA is the minority opinion.
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2011, 07:22:29 AM »
Ronald. There's not two aspects to PB that one could confuse with links. Even me, who disagree with the experts on what defines links knows there's very few run up shot options at PB.
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Ulrich Mayring

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2011, 04:51:39 PM »
Probably one fan (or interested party) of Nags Head voted multiple times.

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Joe_Tucholski

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 06:44:51 PM »
Ronald. There's not two aspects to PB that one could confuse with links. Even me, who disagree with the experts on what defines links knows there's very few run up shot options at PB.

Adam it's called Pebble Beach Golf Links and it's on the ocean.  Two things that easily are confused with links. 

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 09:47:37 AM »
In honor of this list, I will add Nag's Head to my list of "must-play" courses this August...expect an exhausting photo thread from me, beeches.
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Mike Tanner

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 01:30:11 PM »
Nags Head GL has the sandy soil and almost ever-present wind of a links course. You can even see the ocean and the sound if you look carefully between all the housing. Sheesh! It's not even the No. 1 course on the Outer Banks, IMHO.
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Dave Herrick

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Re: Best Links Style Courses - Worst list ever
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 01:58:16 PM »
Links characteristics aside, for any of you doubters as to how well Nags Head GL might represent the links experience, the following from their website may be instructive - "Walking is becoming increasingly popular among golfers, and Nags Head Golf Links is interested in promoting this healthy tradition. Walking is permitted daily with the exception of Monday through Thursday in June, July and August."