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John Mayhugh

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Last week, I had a quick trip to England and was able to slip in a few rounds of golf.  Though I still haven’t gotten around to posting anything about the Boomerang trip to Australia earlier this year, I figured in honor of the royal wedding I would talk England first.  That and my photos from England are slightly better.

If you’ve read my previous posts about playing in England, it should be obvious that I am fond of the place, and the more golf courses that I see there the more of a fan I become.  Golf courses in England are just full of charm.

On the morning that I arrived, I took a drive through the Peak District and its National Park (the first one in England).  The area that I drove through was hilly, with great views of pastures, stone fences, and trails.  





Sadly, these seem to be one of the national flowers.



If you get far enough out in the countryside, you can still run across some of these.




My route through the Peak District took me to the spa town of Buxton.  Some great looking buildings, like the Opera House.



An ancient church



Like many resort towns, be careful where you park.



I wasn’t in town long enough to feel this way, but loved the humor displayed.




Though the city of Buxton is lovely, no visit would be complete without seeing Cavendish.  Designed by Alistair MacKenzie and opened in 1925, Cavendish fit the quirk bill nicely.  Par 68 and only about 5700 yards.  Thanks to a clever routing and some wild land, a true delight to play.  As usual, Sean Arble does an outstanding job profiling the course here.
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41162.0.html

I didn’t arrive until around 4:30, so light for some holes was much better than others.



The simple starter’s hut wasn’t in use.



Holes 1-3 play along a fairly steep hillside.  



It would be hard for anyone to resist taking a crack at the on the downhill, 280 yard 3rd.



Thanks to the slope of the fairway, it’s very tough to avoid the bunkers to reach the green.  If the area around the bunkers was fairway, so much the better.



No shortage of pheasants to keep a single player company, though I did get joined by an aspiring young pro for holes 6-18.



Starting with the 4th, most of the par 3s play downhill as a way to deal with some of the more challenging parts of the property.



From behind the 8th green.  Avoiding the bunkers in front could lead to a tough recovery.



The 420 yard dogleg left 10th takes full advantage of a nasty ravine.  A very tough par without taking on some risk off the tee, but bogey is quite reasonable if played conservatively.



Thoughts of Kington standing in the fairway near the 13th green.



The lone par 5 on the course is on almost completely flat land.  MacKenzie took wonderful advantage of a stone wall along the left side of the hole to create strategic interest.  Only 496 yards, more aggressive lines make the green quite reachable (well, not for me).  An elevated green complicates the approach.





Steep slope from back to front on the par 3 15th  made its 116 yards a bit more demanding.  I recommend using the slope behind to help bring the ball back near the hole, but play that shot a bit long and you’re dead.





While it’s 403 yards, the 16th plays downhill (and sidehill) and in my case downwind.  It’s possible to putt your approach, but when doing so you must account for a significant knob in front of the left side of the green.









Cavendish’s adventure ends with the wild, rolling terrain of the 18th.



Here’s what can happen with a too short tee shot.



The clubhouse looks almost pink in the setting sun.



Thanks to Sean, I had some idea of what to expect with Cavendish, but as with many other courses, the photos just don’t do it justice.  It’s hard to imagine anyone building such a course today, but I came away impressed with what MacKenzie could do with   a challenging piece of property in a resort area.  I’m sure one goal was to make the course fun, and it was indeed.  I liked it so much that I went right back out to squeeze in an “emergency” 9 before dark.  This was actually the last course that I played on the trip, but since I was also in Buxton on the first day, I figured I would just lead it off here.
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Scott Warren

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 09:26:18 PM »
Some great pics mate. Cavendish and Buxton both look the goods. Sort of remidns me that as much as I saw in two years I definitely missed even more!

Nevertheless and however...

I liked this line from your OP:

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the photos just don’t do it justice.  It’s hard to imagine anyone building such a course today, but I came away impressed

That could well be the single best description of golf in England, especially at some of the second tier inland courses, that I've read.

Peter Pallotta

Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 09:34:17 PM »
Thanks, John.

The English countryside is lovely and charming and understated and one-of-a-kind, and so it seems are the golf courses when designed by architects who had the talent and good sense to LET THEM be lovely and charming and understated and one-of-a-kind.  Or so it seems to me.  There is nothing 'precious' or 'showy' about Cavendish -- and that says a lot about the land and the Dr.'s talents -- but most of all, I think, it says a lot about his INTENTIONS.  And it is those intentions, I think, that separate most oldtimers from most moderns most of all.

Peter

Brian_Sleeman

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 10:04:07 PM »
This post alone has forced me to add Cavendish to my list of places to see.  Looks like a nice town to relax, play golf, and take in the sleepy and pastoral charm of the local area.

Thanks for this.

Mike Sweeney

Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 10:20:18 PM »
John M,

As always, great post. Dylan (who you played with) spends a good part of the summer with his Aunt near Buxton. Now I have to figure out a way to tag along. If you have any desire to perform the Mikado by Gilbert & Sullivan this summer after all your England trips, Dylan can get you in:



http://pbtheatricals.co.uk/mikado

And yes my wife will be waking up at 4:OO AM tomorrow !

Mike Cirba

Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 10:37:27 PM »
John,

Terrific post...thanks for sharing!

John Mayhugh

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 11:28:49 PM »

Scott,
I guess it's the second tier courses that intrigue me the most in England, though the top ones are pretty damned good too.

Peter,
While it's hard for every course to be one of a kind, each one of these seems so distinct, and I think I appreciate the courses more by having a sense of the surrounding area as well.

Brian,
Buxton seemed like a nice town, and one could easily spend some time wandering the Peak District.  My hiking is pretty much limited to golf, but the area looks great for non-golfers as well.

Mike S,
I would be better off as a doubles partner in a pickup squash game than any sort of drama. 
Suppose you're just going to DVR the wedding while your wife watches live?

Mike C,
Thanks.

Patrick Kiser

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 12:38:37 AM »
Tip top John...

As always, thanks for sharing.  Some cool greens on this one.
“One natural hazard, however, which is more
or less of a nuisance, is water. Water hazards
absolutely prohibit the recovery shot, perhaps
the best shot in the game.” —William Flynn, golf
course architect

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 01:29:48 AM »
Thanks for the photos John, and the link to Seans' tour which I had not previously seen.

I'm only 20 miles from Buxton so will definitely be making the trip to Cavendish soon. Does anyone else fancy following Mark R's suggestion and making it a 36 hole day combined with Reddish Vale, where I'm a member?

I'd be happy to organise something...
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Richard Hetzel

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2011, 10:37:43 AM »
Is it just me or does this soooooo look like it belongs! I am moving to England!

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Eric Smith

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2011, 10:38:03 AM »
Best thread on page 1!

John,

You once again capture the charm of English golf by showing us so much more than tee - fairway - green - tee - fairway - green...which is fine and dandy mind you, but I think your threads tend to give the reader that extra something else that draws us (at least me anyway) to want to GO, SEE and LIVE it.

Looking forward to the rest of the thread.


John Mayhugh

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 12:19:43 PM »
You once again capture the charm of English golf by showing us so much more than tee - fairway - green - tee - fairway - green...which is fine and dandy mind you, but I think your threads tend to give the reader that extra something else that draws us (at least me anyway) to want to GO, SEE and LIVE it.

Such as sometime later this year??


After leaving Buxton, my drive through the Peak District took me to the village of Tissington. Owned by the same family since 1465, it was a great place to stop for a walk around and a cup of tea.  The grounds of Tissington Hall were a popular place on an unseasonably warm afternoon.



Tissington has a number of well sites like this one.  Once a year, these are “dressed” or decorated to reflect religious themes.



Yeah, looks a bit like England.












Even more memorable than the village of Tissington.....



Jason Topp

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 12:40:56 PM »
Thanks John.  I thought your interests in signs was strange last September.  Now the signs are the first thing I look for.  I think they could sell as a tear off desk calendar.

Eric Smith

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 12:57:13 PM »

Such as sometime later this year??


Lord willing, on 9/23 I'll be on a plane to Shannon for a few days of mad dashery before heading to England to do more of the same!

Lou_Duran

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2011, 01:05:05 PM »
I used to wanna be Tom Huckaby.  Now it's John Mayhugh.

BTW, what are the sporting rules in England?  Is it appropriate to pack a 12 gauge and a fly rod among your clubs, and bag dinner while getting a quick 18 in?  It seems that this would be consistent in spirit with the practical frugality the UK was once known for.

BTW2, I grew up in Ohio and never saw more pheasants than at Shadow Creek in Las Vegas.  Very impressive birds.  Much superior to the crows and grackles common to where I play golf.  I wonder how many rating points a pheasant is worth to a course.

James Boon

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2011, 02:04:35 AM »
John,

I'm glad you got to see Cavendish! I only wish I had made the trip there with you!

I certainly look forward to seeing your other photos and possibly to seeing you back here again some time soon?

Cheers,

James
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James Boon

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2011, 02:06:58 AM »
Thanks for the photos John, and the link to Seans' tour which I had not previously seen.

I'm only 20 miles from Buxton so will definitely be making the trip to Cavendish soon. Does anyone else fancy following Mark R's suggestion and making it a 36 hole day combined with Reddish Vale, where I'm a member?

I'd be happy to organise something...

Duncan,

I'm trying to set up a trip to Cavendish for late May / early June with several GCAers tagging along. When I've got further with this I'll let you know and we can see what happens?

Cheers,

James
2023 Highlights: Hollinwell, Brora, Parkstone, Cavendish, Hallamshire, Sandmoor, Moortown, Elie, Crail, St Andrews (Himalayas & Eden), Chantilly, M, Hardelot Les Pins

"It celebrates the unadulterated pleasure of being in a dialogue with nature while knocking a ball round on foot." Richard Pennell

James Boon

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2011, 02:12:20 AM »
I used to wanna be Tom Huckaby.  Now it's John Mayhugh.

BTW, what are the sporting rules in England?  Is it appropriate to pack a 12 gauge and a fly rod among your clubs, and bag dinner while getting a quick 18 in?  It seems that this would be consistent in spirit with the practical frugality the UK was once known for.

BTW2, I grew up in Ohio and never saw more pheasants than at Shadow Creek in Las Vegas.  Very impressive birds.  Much superior to the crows and grackles common to where I play golf.  I wonder how many rating points a pheasant is worth to a course.

Lou,

I suspect anyone getting a gun out on a golf course over here would get strange looks at best or arrested at worst...  ;D

There is plenty of native wildlife at Hollinwell, of which John will hopefully soon post pics, but there are also plenty of pheasants (they were intorduced to the UK many many years ago to be hunted and eaten) and too be honest they can be so noisy I'm suprised they arent on the clubhouse menu more!

Cheers,

James
2023 Highlights: Hollinwell, Brora, Parkstone, Cavendish, Hallamshire, Sandmoor, Moortown, Elie, Crail, St Andrews (Himalayas & Eden), Chantilly, M, Hardelot Les Pins

"It celebrates the unadulterated pleasure of being in a dialogue with nature while knocking a ball round on foot." Richard Pennell

Mark Pearce

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2011, 07:03:02 AM »
Lou,

I suspect if you try to get a gun into the country you're not likely to get much time to play golf.  Your time in the UK would, I think, be spent at her Majesty's pleasure.
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Kevin Pallier

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2011, 07:04:42 AM »
Thanks John - as always - for your photo tours. I look forward to your next instalment.

John Mayhugh

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 10:16:49 PM »
I used to wanna be Tom Huckaby.  Now it's John Mayhugh.

I may get to travel, but he still has the dashing good looks.



John Mayhugh

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 10:18:15 PM »
Beau Desert (pronounced more like bo duh-zare) means beautiful wilderness.  And the name fits.  The course was well-profiled by Sean Arble here. 
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,30965.0.html

I was fortunate enough to play the course with James Boon & Sean.  As I mentioned in Sean’s thread, if anything, Beau Desert was even better than I expected.  The course is not long at all – 6200 yards, par 70 – but the movement in the land and magnificent set of greens makes the course a real challenge.  During the round, Sean lamented that the greens weren’t as fast as normal.  I cannot imagine how many three-putts might have ensued had they been.

It’s unfortunate that green contours do not photograph well.  Any profile of this course is going to be limited by that issue, because the greens really tell much of the story of the course.  On land that slopes severely in spots, Fowler built up the green pads enough to make the greens puttable.  In the process, though, the greens seems a bit disconnected from the surrounds and thus appear flatter than they actually are.  So greens that have big slopes don’t always look that way. 

For such a beautiful wilderness, the signs at the start were a bit intimidating.






No need for a starter on the day we played. 



The first hole is only 300 yards uphill.  But the right to left slope of the ground and the short carry over the waste area combine to make this a tougher opening shot than the card suggests.  The waste area is a relic of the days of coal mining on the site.


Note on the first green how much the pad is built up to counter the slope of the land.  This is a very common theme on the course.  In addition to making reading of putts more difficult, one can face some difficult recovery shots.



Standing in front of the second green and looking back towards the tee.  This shows the slope somewhat, but not nearly as much as reality.  The course would really reward those able to work the ball against the slopes.


The second shot on the 411 yard 5th.  A well-struck tee shot may reward you with a downhill, sidehill lie.  Note the carry bunker well short of the green and the mound that guards the right side. 


From near the green.   Imagine the difficulty of approaching from the right side.



The green is saddle-shaped, with lower sections front & back.  A really clever green.



The 6th is nearly 400 yards, but plays much shorter due to being steeply downhill.  The green has a bit tilt from right to left, but the trench to the front right side and all along the right makes tough to run something up and utilize the slope.  This makes the left side bunker even more of a threat.



The 7th is probably the best of the par 3s, with a redan-ish green.  I think that the par 3s hold the course back a bit as they aren’t nearly as good as the par 4s and even the 5s.  Not bad, just not the equal of the longer holes.



The 260 yard par 4 ninth almost demands that one go for the green.  The severe slope of the green from right to left makes a layup and approach anything but easy.





The short par 3 10th is fronted by a bunker that reminded me a bit of the old front bunker on the 17th at Walton Heath old.  There is a nice ridge in the center of the green, making a bit of a backstop for carrying the bunker yet staying on the front section.



The double dogleg par 4 12th actually had Sean praising the virtues of some trees.  These are pretty effective at guarding the green from the left side, though hybrids remove some of the challenge.



This view from the back of the 13th green shows how much it was built up.  Combined with the front to back slope of the green, an effective defense.



From behind the 14th.  Enough slope that even the camera picks it up. 



The first par 5 is the 15th.  Extremely wide fairway, but with grass bunkers and mounds a real buzzkill for long hitters.  This cuts off the fairway at about 280 yards from the tee.



A severely contoured green.  Supposedly made more playable by building up the left hand side.



The 18th is the other par 5, also with bunkers & mounding to limit the length of the tee shot.  The green is still reachable, but to have the best chance one needs to get as close to the hazards as possible from the tee.



This large area of heather waits to punish the player who went for the green and came up a bit short.



The massive 18th green is an appropriate ending to the round.  I imagine lots of variety in how the hole plays depending on the day’s hole location.




I’m so glad that I had the opportunity to see Beau Desert.  Fowler is fast becoming a favorite, as I really appreciate his use of the land to create challenge.  Sean & James had to leave after 18, and I was able to get back out for a solo round before dark.  Having seen the greens once didn’t make putting any easier, but better understanding the land made for some fun shot attempts.  Not sure where my next Fowler experience will be, but I’m hoping it’s soon.

John Mayhugh

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2011, 10:06:51 PM »
Should also have included this link to a Links Magazine article on Beau Desert from a few years back.
http://www.linksmagazine.com/golf_courses/international/england/beau_desert_golf.aspx



Scott Warren

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2011, 10:13:02 PM »
I dunno why, but I see a cross between Alwoodley and The Berkshire in those pics.

What is your Fowler collection so far, John?

John Mayhugh

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Re: An abundance of charm – three April rounds in England
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2011, 10:21:36 PM »
What is your Fowler collection so far, John?

Very limited - just Walton Heath Old & Beau Desert.  Hoping to see Eastward Ho this year, plus something else in England (hopefully).  The Berkshire courses really appeal.