The 17th at University of Wisconsin Golf Course (University Ridge) is brutal. It's 250 (from the tips) to a small green with water short and left and a bunker right. There's not really any bail out right or long. I guess there is a little one right, but it's not much shorter and tiny.
I thought the hole was just terrible, honestly. I hit a peach of a driver to 15 feet or so (fortunately the pin was up front as it was into the wind). I just don't understand a hole like that, at that length, with nowhere to go.
I've not played 14th at Pacific Dunes, but if it's harder than this one, I hope it at least has more options.
I'd love to hear other's opinions who have played it.
Mark,
I've played that one at Wolf Run a few times, and it's brutal. I don't understand why the keep it so long, especially with the back and right sloping green that you mentioned. Into the wind, you can't get home and down wind you can't stop it. At least you can find it though!