1st design for Tiger Woods Design complete

[Joe Grasty]

http://web.tigerwoods.com/design/jupiter_island.html

"The putting greens each incorporate the latest technologies that will help replicate tournament conditions, improve maintenance and aid in turf management. All greens are equipped to use SubAir, which moves air through the green profile to improve maintenance conditions. One green uses hydronics, which is a tubing system that heats or cools the temperature of the green profile and can be used as an aid to improve ground conditions during extreme weather. These tools will help create the ability to replicate tournament conditions, when necessary."

[mike_beene]

joe,when I saw this I assumed it was going to be about the Asheville course he has been working on(which I believe ran into some forcred reroute issues due to watercourse or flow issues.I believe it would still be a while from completion.I am out of the country and my link won't come up.Did the article mention that course?

[PCCraig]

If that's not every golfer's dream I don't know what is....

[Joe Grasty]

joe,when I saw this I assumed it was going to be about the Asheville course he has been working on(which I believe ran into some forcred reroute issues due to watercourse or flow issues.I believe it would still be a while from completion.I am out of the country and my link won't come up.Did the article mention that course?

No mention at all of the other courses being designed.

[Wade Whitehead]

So Tiger hires himself to build a practice facility on his own property and it counts as a completed project?

WW

[RJ_Daley]

Will one cultivar eventually out-compete the others?

[Anthony Gray]

  Did I miss something?

 Anthony

[Ronald Montesano]

In order to recoup recent losses, he should consider making it upscale-public for a while (pronounced "hwile" in the Stewie Griffin tradition.)

[Jaeger Kovich]

I'd say it is his right to claim this as a completed project. The drainage, irrigation and turf combinations certainly must be one of a kind, and potentially groundbreaking/influential in the future... If he wants to say its his design, I'm not going to fight it. Smart marketing too!

[Scott Warren]

Ronald:

pronounced "hwile" in the Stewie Griffin tradition.

Coolwhip served on everything at the half-way house?

[Mike_Young]

I'd say it is his right to claim this as a completed project. The drainage, irrigation and turf combinations certainly must be one of a kind, and potentially groundbreaking/influential in the future... If he wants to say its his design, I'm not going to fight it. Smart marketing too!

WHAT?  GROUNDBREAKING....I keep hoping when we come out of this thing people will have learned from the mistakes of the last few years....yep....subair, tubing....influential stuff.....I wonder if TW knows he designed this stuff in his greens.....
Our local PGA pro has already informed us of how groundbreaking this is and how fortunate we are to have this same contractor working at our course....
sorry for the rant...just more of the same....just hope it stops soon...cheers

[Sam Morrow]

I got sucked in, I started looking at details for his other courses. Is there a lack of property at Punta Brava because it's a par 70 at less than 7,000 yards? Or are Tiger and his people actually building a golf course where length isn't the most important thing?

[Jaeger Kovich]

I'd say it is his right to claim this as a completed project. The drainage, irrigation and turf combinations certainly must be one of a kind, and potentially groundbreaking/influential in the future... If he wants to say its his design, I'm not going to fight it. Smart marketing too!

WHAT?  GROUNDBREAKING....I keep hoping when we come out of this thing people will have learned from the mistakes of the last few years....yep....subair, tubing....influential stuff.....I wonder if TW knows he designed this stuff in his greens.....
Our local PGA pro has already informed us of how groundbreaking this is and how fortunate we are to have this same contractor working at our course....
sorry for the rant...just more of the same....just hope it stops soon...cheers

... dont think architecture or sustainability, think technology and engineering

[Mike_Young]

I'd say it is his right to claim this as a completed project. The drainage, irrigation and turf combinations certainly must be one of a kind, and potentially groundbreaking/influential in the future... If he wants to say its his design, I'm not going to fight it. Smart marketing too!

WHAT?  GROUNDBREAKING....I keep hoping when we come out of this thing people will have learned from the mistakes of the last few years....yep....subair, tubing....influential stuff.....I wonder if TW knows he designed this stuff in his greens.....
Our local PGA pro has already informed us of how groundbreaking this is and how fortunate we are to have this same contractor working at our course....
sorry for the rant...just more of the same....just hope it stops soon...cheers

... dont think architecture or sustainability, think technology and engineering

I was....there was no reason to think architecture or sustainability

[Mike Nuzzo]

... dont think architecture or sustainability, think technology and engineering

Stop!

Think waste of money and resources during design, construction and maintenance.
Fighting the natural environment is a waste of money.

Cheers

[Richard Choi]

Fighting the natural environment is a waste of money.

Cheers

Waste of money???

If practicing at home allows him to save one putt per tournament, it would more than pay for itself. And I am not even talking about the extra time he can spend with his kids which would be worth millions to him.

I mean, billions are spent every year so that people can have perfect looking lawns. Tell me that is not fighting the natural environment. With all the money that Tiger earns, we are probably spending more (percentage wise) to keep our yards looking good than he is with his new practice facility.

[Joel_Stewart]

With such detail, I wonder who the superintendent is?  I'm sure it has to have constant and experienced staff to keep it in top condition.

[Tim Gavrich]

This makes perfect sense to me.  Tiger has the money to burn on those bells and whistles and, as has been said, it will probably help his game and make him more of a homebody.  It's just that 99.99% of golf courses don't have that sort of coin to plunk down on their own turf.

[Jonathan Cummings]

I'm no tax lawyer but it seems to me he would have a pretty good case with the IRS writing it all off against his golf income.  After all his practicing potentially makes him....and the government.... more money.  JC

[Mike_Young]

I don't care how it helps TW tax wise, or how it makes practice more convenient, or what type of supt needs to be there....my point was and is that this is more of the same over the top stuff that put golf where it is today....sure it's nice to have and he can afford it...but even the RE ventures he will be hired to market/design should be over all of this stuff by now....

[Harris Nepon]

Mike, I'm probably opening a can of worms here, but I don't see whats so wrong about what Tiger has done and how it effects the core values of the game. He has clearly developed a PRACTICE facility that helps him to replicate all the different conditions he faces. In Florida I would assume some grasses are harder to grow in an unnatural environment. So Technology was used to make something feasible where it was probably once considered impossible or extremely difficult. Technology is used every day in every area of our lives to make life easier or more practical.

Sorry, but seems more like your are just Tiger hating.

It's a practice facility in his back yard, I highly doubt Tom Doak will be seeking Tiger's advice for his next project based on a back yard dream playground.

[Mike_Young]

Mike, I'm probably opening a can of worms here, but I don't see whats so wrong about what Tiger has done and how it effects the core values of the game. He has clearly developed a PRACTICE facility that helps him to replicate all the different conditions he faces. In Florida I would assume some grasses are harder to grow in an unnatural environment. So Technology was used to make something feasible where it was probably once considered impossible or extremely difficult. Technology is used every day in every area of our lives to make life easier or more practical.

Sorry, but seems more like your are just Tiger hating.

It's a practice facility in his back yard, I highly doubt Tom Doak will be seeking Tiger's advice for his next project based on a back yard dream playground.

Harris,
I am open to technology....which part of his technology was needed to grow the grasses that were mentioned.....guys been doing it for years without subair and tubes....if those technologies are needed to grow those grasses then those grasses are not acceptable for golf....except at the very top of the spectrum of courses....
cheers
Oh...and I am not a TW hater....by a long shot....he is one of the greatest golfers of all time....and his agent has done a good job of marketing him as a golf architect...

[Anthony_Nysse]

With such detail, I wonder who the superintendent is?  I'm sure it has to have constant and experienced staff to keep it in top condition.

I'm trying to figure that out. I've scratched some rough numbers as to what a maintenance budget for those grasses, in this climate might be, let alone maintaining it to the standards of TW. There is alot of coin there.

[Anthony_Nysse]

The guy who's taking care of the practice facility at his house used to be an assistant at Augusta National. His name is Matt Smith. The property is called "Sand Turtle".

[George Pazin]

Thanks, Tony, that seems like a pretty shrewd hire by Tiger.



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