Mike,
Lesley clearly identifies the Redan and the Alps holes.
We know, from your timeline in post # 124 that the routing, along with the individual holes designs, including tees and greens, and seeding, was completed in the fall of 1911, six months prior to Wilson's trip abroad.
So, Wilson's trip had nothing to do with the final routing, nothing to do with the individual hole designs, nothing to do with the location/siting of 18 tees and 18 greens, which, by your own admission, were all completed and seeded by the fall of 1911.
We also know from Lesley's account, and I'm assuming that you view it as the gospel, that the course opened on 09-04-12, less than 4 months after Wilson's return. Hence, it's doubtful, on opening day, that any substantive changes in routing, hole design, and the location of tees and greens occured.
Lastly, Lesley's article isn't about architectural attribution, although he does reference the Redan and the Alps, which were all conceived and built before Wilson departed for the UK.
To declare, because Lesley doesn't discuss architectural attribution, that CBM couldn't have been involved and influential is disingenuous.
Jim Sullivan, Jeff Brauer and David,
The phrase "laid out upon the land" created controversy long before this thread was initiated.
Some felt is described the design process, others the construction process.
What's always bothered me is WHY did Merion name the committee the construction committee ?
A reasonable person could conclude, because the course had already been routed and designed, and therefore, the task falling to that committee was to get the course in/on the ground.
I'm also curious about Francis's role. I know he pooh pooh's it, but, as an engineer, he had to be a vital cog.
With Raynor an integral member of CBM's team, it would be hard to believe that these two engineers didn't communicate with one another.
And, the inability to produce communication between them, doesn't mean that they weren't in contact with one another.
All of you cretins and morons (there is a distinction) seem to rely solely upon written correspondence and articles in newspapers and magazines, completely neglecting that a sophisticated telephone system was in place in and between NY and Philadelphia, allowing these parties to communicate on a hourly basis if need be.
The complete disregard and disavowing of any phone communication between the parties is stunning.
Your collective opinions seem to be that if it isn't in written form and signed, then the committee members and CBM & HJW couldn't be in contact with one another and nothing could be further from the truth.
David Moriarty, subpoena the phone records !