Ryan
Trees do not have a place on a golf course, in my humble opinion and I have given my reason
“design content of mature trees is zero as we cannot predict their growth pattern – so is it the Keeper of The Greens or the Architect who gets the credit for the interface of the mature tree? It’s just too Hit & Miss to be part of a design”.
AS for your comments,
The comment that trees don't deserve to be on golf courses really flies in the face of your anti-manufactured golf philosophy. See, if trees weren't allowed on golf courses, 70% of the United States wouldn't have access to golf. Further, if an area wanted to introduce golf to the woodlands, they would have to deforest hundreds of acres of trees.
Is that what we want?
You stupid boy is my first response to such BS, just grow up as everything is not black or white. Trees do exist, its just closed and ignorant minds that do not seem to be able to work it out for themselves. Trees can be located well out into the rough, they can be located in any other position as long as it’s not on the fairway or line of play.
Jim
You said
You must not have been paying attention...Melvyn wants golf reserved for where it was invented only, the Scottish linksland...or was it Holland?
Jim, IMHO there is very little to say as you clearly have not read many of my post on this site, hence you keep make fundamental errors.
Kyle
I can only comment on links course that I know and mention trees if they come in to the line of play.
AS for Golden Age, well looks bleak for the immediate future, as we seem to have forgotten or going away from the traditional game for the easy life of little effort golf. Pity as golf should be anything but easy. Probably a cultural thing I expect.
As for inland courses and going inland in the 20th Century. Sorry Kyle, but they were around in the 19th Century, some being the private courses of the Earls and Landed gentry years before being converted into a club. Plus Council owned sites, places like Perth North Inch, Tarland, the Earl of Aberdeen, Ladybank and Cupar in Fife Newtonmore, Strathpeffer Spa plus many more in Scotland. Trees plentiful and courses built and played upon form the 1840 onwards. It was not an invention of the late 19 or 20th Century guys, but then it’s the way some approach the design of a golf course, looking for a site against perhaps a site fit for purpose. Different cultures and criteria I suppose.
I do not like trees on the line of play, they are IMHO a distraction rather than a hazard and distractions are just a pain, in the same way as Island Greens – pointless and have the ability to slow play drastically not to mention add any interest.
Jeff
What is this, am I not entitled to an opinion. I am not presenting opinions of others be they dead or alive just MY OPINION, trees are the joker in the pack and offer not initial design input only coming into play as mods or as they grow which could well be years after the death of the designer. Who would not have been certain of the actual trunk or branch profile and how it would interface with the course design. It had no part in the early design and may cause problems with said design as it matures. Is this your type of GCA, its not mine so hense my comments.
Melvyn