Buda IX - Open for business

[Ulrich Mayring]

I'm playing in Deal on Sunday and at Hankley on Tuesday (so as to not miss any holes, seeing that we play all foursomes at BUDA). I'm still open for suggestions for Monday.

Ulrich

[Paul Nash]

Given its very close proximity, low cost (£50 for 18, £30 twilight after 4) and excellent quality, I would highly recommend Blackmoor for any gaps - it is only about 5-10 miles from Hankley or Liphook, as is Hindhead. Have a great Buda.

[Frank Pont]

Agree with Paul, Blackmoor is excellent, a good antidote of Colt seriousness versus some of the Simpson quirck at Liphook. Both have great heather and great par 3's

[Bill_McBride]

It appears the Buda is short one player, and there will have to be some give and take on composition of the sides if we are to be 12 vs  12. 

We need someone to step up and be that 24th player!

Craig, could you post the current rosters?   Thanks.

[Tony_Muldoon]

Bill I'll try and do that tomorrow.  There are ways of getting equal no's  so we won’t have any problems , but Yes we can squeeze one more in.

I’m off on holiday next weekend but I’ll send out an email to participants before I go. If you’ve never had an email from me in the past it would be very useful to get an IM now with your contact details on it.

Unless the next 3 weeks bring lots of poor weather I can report that heathland courses are in A1 condition at the moment. Fairways with alight brown tinge, greens hard, heather blooming; what more can a grown man want?

Paul, sadly Blackmoor has no availability either Fri PM or at the weekend, but yes it's on "my little list".

See Stoneham and Sean’s rating earlier in the thread if anyone is still looking for a weekend venue. Wonderful track.


Ulrich as a detour from Deal to Hankley can I suggest Royal ASShdown Forrest. Now if only someone had some photos's 

[Frank Pont]

Tony, have you tried Tandridge? They might be able to accomodate you

[Craig Disher]

The full roster can be accessed from the first post in the thread - "Registration Information."

We have 24 players - 10 US and 14 GBI. I think Bill and Peter should negotiate a fair reassignment of a couple of the GBIs.

A few have said they won't be available for the full Buda Cup so we'll have to reduce matches or fill in with local players. I know that the Liphook member who was so helpful in arranging our visit would be interested in playing if he's around.

[Lynn_Shackelford]

The full roster can be accessed from the first post in the thread - "Registration Information."

We have 24 players - 10 US and 14 GBI. I think Bill and Peter should negotiate a fair reassignment of a couple of the GBIs.

A few have said they won't be available for the full Buda Cup so we'll have to reduce matches or fill in with local players. I know that the Liphook member who was so helpful in arranging our visit would be interested in playing if he's around.

Captain Bill
Always a team player, if needed I can play Thursday A.M.  I had previously indicated a desire to rest that A.M.  After playing 36 on Wednesday I thought the U.S. would probably be so far in front that a bit of coasting would be possible.

[Bill_McBride]

Looking at the spreadsheet, there are some missing handicaps and/or indexes.   Could you please check the spreadsheet (top of page 1) and post your current number so Captain Mallieu and I can start thinking about pairings.  Thanks.  

For the USA players, please anyone with whom you would like to pair up.  or not, as the case may be.  

And if anyone has any ideas how we can reconcile UK CONGU handicaps with US GHIN handicaps for best matches, I would appreciate some advice.  (Will be helpful in trying to bring home the Cup for a change.)

[Bill_McBride]

The full roster can be accessed from the first post in the thread - "Registration Information."

We have 24 players - 10 US and 14 GBI. I think Bill and Peter should negotiate a fair reassignment of a couple of the GBIs.

A few have said they won't be available for the full Buda Cup so we'll have to reduce matches or fill in with local players. I know that the Liphook member who was so helpful in arranging our visit would be interested in playing if he's around.

Captain Bill
Always a team player, if needed I can play Thursday A.M.  I had previously indicated a desire to rest that A.M.  After playing 36 on Wednesday I thought the U.S. would probably be so far in front that a bit of coasting would be possible.

We'll get you to post up against Jim Goby that morning.   A little Buda humor. 

[James Boon]

Bill,

To aid you and Captain Mallieu, my current handicap has just crept back up to 6 and I'm planning on playing all 3 days.

And if anyone has any ideas how we can reconcile UK CONGU handicaps with US GHIN handicaps for best matches, I would appreciate some advice.  (Will be helpful in trying to bring home the Cup for a change.)

I believe the proper procedure, is to discuss it at length, come up with plenty of theories, some whacky, some sensible, debate it a little more, and the GB&I win!  A little Buda banter to get us going...

Cheers,

James

[Bill_McBride]

Bill,

To aid you and Captain Mallieu, my current handicap has just crept back up to 6 and I'm planning on playing all 3 days.

And if anyone has any ideas how we can reconcile UK CONGU handicaps with US GHIN handicaps for best matches, I would appreciate some advice.  (Will be helpful in trying to bring home the Cup for a change.)

I believe the proper procedure, is to discuss it at length, come up with plenty of theories, some whacky, some sensible, debate it a little more, and the GB&I win!  A little Buda banter to get us going...

Cheers,

James

Unfortunately that's the path we have been following, which may account for the consistently poor results for Team USA.  We even tried mixing in some alcohol, to poor effect.

[Michael Whitaker]

Bill,

Mr. Fields and I are carrying 11 shots each.

As for the USGA indexes... you just need to estimate a Slope Rating for the courses and look up the handicaps on the appropriate chart. Here is a link to a complete listing of slope charts: http://wsga.org/uploadedFiles/WSGARoot/About_Us/WSGA_Forms/slope_charts.pdf

Have fun!!!

Mike

[Bill_McBride]

Bill,

Mr. Fields and I are carrying 11 shots each.

As for the USGA indexes... you just need to estimate a Slope Rating for the courses and look up the handicaps on the appropriate chart. Here is a link to a complete listing of slope charts: http://wsga.org/uploadedFiles/WSGARoot/About_Us/WSGA_Forms/slope_charts.pdf

Have fun!!!

Mike

[sotto voce mumble]   Must delegate this stuff.........

[Mark Pearce]

As far as pre-BUDA golf, three of us (Giles, Conrad and I) have a morning time at West Hill on the Tuesday.  In the afternoon we shall be joined by Messrs Goodale and Dickson and have two tee times.  Room for one more in the morning, up to three in the afternoon.

As to USGHIN handicaps we can do all the maths we like.  Or just add 10%.

[Bill_McBride]

As far as pre-BUDA golf, three of us (Giles, Conrad and I) have a morning time at West Hill on the Tuesday.  In the afternoon we shall be joined by Messrs Goodale and Dickson and have two tee times.  Room for one more in the morning, up to three in the afternoon.

As to USGHIN handicaps we can do all the maths we like.  Or just add 10%.

I counter 20%.

[Lou_Duran]

Captain McBride,

Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close.  Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.   

[Bill_McBride]

Captain McBride,

Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close.  Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.   

Taken under advisement.

[Mark Pearce]

Captain McBride,

Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close.  Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.   

Now that's just getting silly.  And I haven't forgotten the whipping you handed out to me and the African Animal last year.  You need no more shots that that hooky Texan (?) handicap.

[Lou_Duran]

Captain McBride,

Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close.  Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.    

Now that's just getting silly.  And I haven't forgotten the whipping you handed out to me and the African Animal last year.  You need no more shots that that hooky Texan (?) handicap.

Sir,

You must have me confused with someone else.  Said "African Animal" won't have anything to do with me for reasons unknown to me, but possibly having to do with my unusual attempt at good manners by suggesting that we might play the forward tees when I hosted him near Dallas years ago.  If memory serves, it was you and your brother Conrad who gave Craig and me the thrashing.  Well deservedly, I might add.   

[Ulrich Mayring]

If you want to settle this issue once and for all, I can get that done for BUDA 2012

I have written a program (you can download it under http://www.golfcv.de) that can calculate EGA, USGA and CONGU handicaps from your scores. More importantly, the program can also generate mass data for statistical analysis. With a little tweaking I could let it generate tens of thousands of rounds that would be typical for golfers of various playing abilities and then compare the calculated handicaps.

Come to think of it, I could even put golfers against each other in match play and calculate fair stroke allowances. But I think CONGU has already done that

My own handicap, for BUDA purposes, is 14.6 (EGA system).

Ulrich

[Bill_McBride]

My own handicap, for BUDA purposes, is 14.6 (EGA system).

Ulrich

Only if you are assigned to the proposed ROW team.  Then it will be fine. 

[Bill_McBride]

Would all the Budas please check the registration spreadsheet at the top of page 1 of this thread?

Please send me an email or IM to provide or verify your (alleged) handicap, and let me know which rounds you might not be playing.  Hard to believe but we are less than three weeks out!

The captains have agreed to make the teams 12-12 by changing the USA side to Rest of the World, assigning Philip and Ulrich to ROW. Welcome aboard!

Look forward to seeing everyone soon!

[Giles Payne]

Bill

I am playing all rounds (as I believe that Conra an Mark are) an my hanicap is 12 (11.5 rounded up).

Very much looking forward to this.

Giles

[Mark Pearce]

Bill,

My information remains accurate, save that my handicap has gone out to 13.0 (which, with Lou's 30%, makes me 16.9, that is how it's supposed to work, isn't it?).

Mark