[Thomas Patterson]

Bill- please see reply #119. I was done and the people starting attacking me, hence my return to this thread

And with this post I'm done....again.

[Tim Bert]

Can we move the last three pages of this thread to the "Sorry to bring up a sore subject, but" thread and start over with a good conversation of the merits of the course?

[Brent Hutto]

I don't think it's possible on this forum any longer to have an extended discussion on any golf course purely on the merits of the course. Not sure if or when there was a Golden Age in which such discussions were common but it hasn't been that way for at least several years now. If a course is worth extended discussion then it's apparently worth a detour into name-calling, posturing and general bullshit.

[Mac Plumart]

To repost one of my previous posts...



Anyway, back on track...

Is Dormie C&C's best? 

Of course, I don't know.  I've only played Cuscowilla, Chechessee Creek, and Sand Hills.  But the Dormie looks great...but so does Clear Creek, Friar's Head, Lost Farm, Hidden Creek, Colorado Golf Club, Bandon Trails and Old Sandwich.  I don't think it will go down as their best, as Sand Hills was/is so epic and such a groundbreaking and game changer of a golf course I think it HAS to go down in the history books as their best.

But from what I see, it looks like if you get the chance to play any Coore and Crenshaw course...you need to!  They seem to produce quality golf courses...plain and simple.

[Ben Kodadek]

I've been reading this thread for the last couple of days.  I have laughed out loud a number of times, even sharing some replies with my wife. 

Thomas, what are you doing to yourself?  Let it rest.  The "big boys" on this site have said the same thing over and over, you're essentially attacking the founder of this site.  The guy who gave all of us this tremendous forum....

Let this one die.  You were wrong.  Make an apology as your line of thinking for the last few days is nuts.

[Carl Johnson]

I "visited" the Dormie Club Saturday.  We drove by on the highway, from which you can see part of at least one hole through the trees.  Then we turned into the entrance.  It was only after going a couple of hundred yards and seeing nothing but pavement that we realized there had been a "Members Only" sign at the entrance, so we turned around and left immediately.  On down the highway there was what looked like a construction entrance with a sign indicating that we should not enter.  There was also a number to call for an appointment, which we did not do.  Sorry I have nothing more to report.  Oh, this was after playing the Southern Pines Golf Club for the first time.  It's not a course that would appeal to the long bombers, but it is not what I would call an easy course either.  For those interested in Ross architecture I would recommend it highly, and best of all it is open to the public.

[Carl Nichols]

To repost one of my previous posts...



Anyway, back on track...

Is Dormie C&C's best? 

Of course, I don't know.  I've only played Cuscowilla, Chechessee Creek, and Sand Hills.  But the Dormie looks great...but so does Clear Creek, Friar's Head, Lost Farm, Hidden Creek, Colorado Golf Club, Bandon Trails and Old Sandwich.  I don't think it will go down as their best, as Sand Hills was/is so epic and such a groundbreaking and game changer of a golf course I think it HAS to go down in the history books as their best.

But from what I see, it looks like if you get the chance to play any Coore and Crenshaw course...you need to!  They seem to produce quality golf courses...plain and simple.

Mac:
I don't know either.  I've played only Bandon Trails, Cuscowilla and WeKoPa.  Each of those was really, really good -- and except for a few design features that C&C seem to repeat in many of their courses, they were all quite different from one another, which shouldn't be surprising given how different the sites/topography/weather are for those courses.  The reaction I had from these pictures (and just from these pictures, since I've played no other courses) is that I've seen them before in the Clear Creek, Hidden Creek, and/or Colorado Golf Club threads.  Maybe that's because I'm not perceptive enough to figure out obvious differences just from pictures, but this didn't look great AND unique -- just great.

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

I thought that the Dormie club was public.....








just kidding.

Cant wait to see the place though..the mere asking the question of this thread makes one want to visit.

[Jud_T]

I'm a bit confused...People are raving about the place at the same time that the guys who are really in the know have zero interest in the place in it's current form...If it's a question of what it could be, then lets not get our panties in a bunch until it actually IS what it could be.  

[Mac Plumart]

Pfft...Like Ran and Jeff know anything about golf course architecture or The Dormie.   

Chip has played it and loved it.  I'll take his word for it.  And I NEVER wear panties!

[Roger Wolfe]

I "visited" the Dormie Club Saturday.  We drove by on the highway, from which you can see part of at least one hole through the trees.  Then we turned into the entrance.  It was only after going a couple of hundred yards and seeing nothing but pavement that we realized there had been a "Members Only" sign at the entrance, so we turned around and left immediately.  On down the highway there was what looked like a construction entrance with a sign indicating that we should not enter.  There was also a number to call for an appointment, which we did not do.  Sorry I have nothing more to report.  Oh, this was after playing the Southern Pines Golf Club for the first time.  It's not a course that would appeal to the long bombers, but it is not what I would call an easy course either.  For those interested in Ross architecture I would recommend it highly, and best of all it is open to the public.

I hope you enjoyed Southern Pines Carl.  It is still my favorite DESIGN and PIECE OF LAND in Pinehurst.  Conditions are better elsewhere but until I play a course in PH I enjoy more, it gets my vote.

[JC Jones]

  And I NEVER wear panties!

That is not actually true.

[PCCraig]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

[Mac Plumart]

Weird, wild stuff!

I guess he wasn't satisfied with Ran's explanation.

"All I want is an explanation from Ran to this board.... I think we are owed that"   

[JR Potts]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

Is it?

It was weird....not Shivas' Cheater-Line weird but weird.

[Jim Colton]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

Once you've burned every bridge to ever get a private invite anywhere, what's the point of even having a GCA user I.D.? 

[JC Jones]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

Once you've burned every bridge to ever get a private invite anywhere, what's the point of even having a GCA user I.D.? 

So wise this man.

[Roger Wolfe]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

Once you've burned every bridge to ever get a private invite anywhere, what's the point of even having a GCA user I.D.? 

So wise this man.

We need one more for the Dixie Cup?  You think Thomas will play in that?

[PCCraig]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

Is it?

It was weird....not Shivas' Cheater-Line weird but weird.

I don't know Thomas personally or have any dog in the fight that was this thread, but I just didn't like seeing someone off the board before they ever really got started. "Sad" was perhaps a poor choice of words...

But then again it's not my board and it's not my rules.

[JC Jones]

Sad to see Thomas is no longer a member of the board........

Once you've burned every bridge to ever get a private invite anywhere, what's the point of even having a GCA user I.D.? 

So wise this man.

We need one more for the Dixie Cup?  You think Thomas will play in that?

Maybe some of the guys who live in Pinehurst can make the 90 minute trek to play the Dixie Cup?

[Bruce Wellmon]

With exception of Augusta National this might be the best course in the southeastern US and instantly in the top 15-20 in the U.S.

I had the good fortune to play DC this past weekend. I have thought about the course for 3 days and I simply must agree with Chip.
I think DC is as good as any of the 3 courses I played in Bandon in 2005. I certainly think it's the best course in NC or SC today. The undulations in the fairways are never ending, the greens can be huge (one probably 45 yards deep), the greens sit softy on the terrian, I hit every club in the bag, and the ground game is more than encouraged. It played firm and fast. I felt creative like you should at Bandon or in Scotland. I putted from 10 yards off the green, I hit low runners, chipped with 7 irons. Things that most courses in my area won't let you do. I would change one hole. One tee shot landing area or tee location (#8) and that's it.
It's really really good.   

[JC Jones]

Just another example of southern elitism.

[Bruce Wellmon]

Just another example of southern elitism.

Hey, I did stop for BBQ on the way home.

[Harwell Palmer]

I  got an email today from MidSouth club in Southern Pines/Pinehurst.

The Dormie Club will have an event this Friday, November 19.

It is called something like "Be a Dormie Member for a day" (I deleted it earlier).

The cost?      ONLY $155!!!

[Bill_McBride]

I  got an email today from MidSouth club in Southern Pines/Pinehurst.

The Dormie Club will have an event this Friday, November 19.

It is called something like "Be a Dormie Member for a day" (I deleted it earlier).

The cost?      ONLY $155!!!

That quite possibly includes a caddy and his tip.

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