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Scott Warren

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2010, 01:50:46 PM »
Is anyone else already sick and tired of Peter Aliss's constant babble, or is it just me?

Tony Weiler

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2010, 01:51:39 PM »
Google News found the worst Golf Writer in the world:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38262714/ns/sports-golf/


I'll say this about Celizic, he's not my favorite writer by far.  But, any time that I've ever sent him an e-mail taking him to task, he ALWAYS answers me.  I give him tons of credit for that.  Plus, I think a good writer makes me think about stuff, and I sure don't often write to others, so maybe he's better than I give him credit for.  

Mark Chaplin

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2010, 02:01:05 PM »
Brian - the head greenkeeper on his blog mentions two days each with 1/2" of rain in July and it's been pretty moist this week.

McDowell being interviewed on BBC1 and he's happy with a 71 in the afternoon conditions!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2010, 02:04:29 PM by Mark Chaplin »
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Tim Pitner

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2010, 02:12:59 PM »
Scoring today is obviously low, but not universally so--Harrington and Cabrera at +1, Mickelson at +2 thru 16, Furyk at +5. 

Of all the Open courses, TOC is the one most dependent on weather as a defense.  Maybe that's a good thing, but as a tournament venue, I prefer many of the other courses--Muirfield, Royal St. George's, even Birkdale, Turnberry and Lytham. 

Brian_Ewen

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2010, 02:28:48 PM »
Dont you wish it really was a ballot ?

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2010, 03:01:08 PM »
Is anyone else already sick and tired of Peter Aliss's constant babble, or is it just me?
I would take him any day over Jim Nantz, Mike Tirico or most of the other American announcers.

Jud_T

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2010, 03:03:15 PM »
Is anyone else already sick and tired of Peter Aliss's constant babble, or is it just me?
I would take him any day over Jim Nantz, Mike Tirico or most of the other American announcers.

Bump.  Peter Aliss and Johnny Miller are the only guys I need doing any commentary....
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Steve Salmen

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2010, 03:09:30 PM »
I'd retire Miller and put Ben Wright in his place.

Eric Smith

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2010, 03:10:26 PM »
I'd retire Miller and put Ben Wright in his place.

I miss him.

Jud_T

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2010, 03:18:43 PM »
Steve,

I wouldn't retire Johnny, but I'd welcome Ben back with open arms.  The key will be tomorrow's weather draw...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Mark Pearce

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2010, 03:22:08 PM »
Aliss has annoyed me for years.  The idea of a sport being represented to the public by a man who symbolises so much of what is wrong with the sport is appalling.  He has no real insight and clings to an era best left behind.  The rest of the BBC team, though, are pretty good.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Brian_Ewen

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2010, 03:24:09 PM »
The key will be tomorrow's weather draw...
Is it a draw ?

Jud_T

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2010, 03:27:20 PM »
I just mean the luck of the draw....If the wind blows 25 mph tomorrow afternoon vs. more benign morning conditions, or visa-versa...I really want to see how McIlroy will hang with a 2-3 club wind...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Melvyn Morrow

Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2010, 04:22:07 PM »

I am for and pro technology. It should be used to keep the game consistent not to improve players scores. That is IMHO nothing short of bloody cheating by stealth thanks to the lack of understanding over the years by the R&A.

We all know that the clubs and balls are the main reasons many reach the Greens in one shot but because we all hope that one day we  might also succeed in that feat so we keep quiet, yet all know its just a big lie. But winning and beating our previous score seems to be worth it to some. Yet at what cost to the game, how many of you have actually thought about that?

Golf requires the golfer to be honest not just with others but first and foremost  with oneself .

Nevertheless used correctly for the good of the game I am certainly a supporter of technology, but not to aid ones score.

Ally  has understood my position on the subject .

As for Peter, I enjoy his humour, his TV coverage with his open and honest chat, am surprised to see others don’t. 

Melvyn

Mark Chaplin

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2010, 04:29:34 PM »
Remember McIlroy grew up at Royal County Down so he's very experienced in the breeze, Open pressure now that's a different matter!
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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2010, 04:49:00 PM »
St Andrews is a fairly easy course, with holes like 1 - 3 - 7 - 9 - 10 - 12 and 18 plus a pair of par fives, in still conditions and after rain a 63 is easily on, a 60 would be a good call if conditions stay the same.
If (and I dont think it is) TOC is redundant, it is because of driveable par 4 holes, but what does it matter if they are long threes, short fours, who cares about par anyway. If pros shoot 60 so what?

On a seperate note I am not sure if this works in the USA, type www.bbc.co.uk  then go to tv find BBC2 and you can watch the live 12 hour per day OPEN.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
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Martin Toal

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2010, 05:03:04 PM »
Remember McIlroy grew up at Royal County Down so he's very experienced in the breeze, Open pressure now that's a different matter!

Actually he grew up ay Holywood, which is a parkland course near Belfast, but he has good links experience from his amateur days.

Mark Pearce

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2010, 05:07:23 PM »
Adrian,

The BBC coverage is only available online in the UK.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

David Lott

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2010, 05:20:49 PM »
So just how are day two tee times determined? It's obviously not reverse order of the first day.
David Lott

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: 2010 Open Championship New
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2010, 05:38:57 PM »
So just how are day two tee times determined? It's obviously not reverse order of the first day.
They are predetermined David, you play in the same group of 3 and the early players say match 1 become say match 20 for day 2 and match 2 becomes 21 etc.. day 1s match 36 becomes day 2s match 56 and day 1s match 37 becames day 2s 1 etc.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2010, 06:23:42 PM by Adrian_Stiff »
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
www.theplayersgolfclub.com

David Lott

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2010, 05:43:23 PM »
So they could put Glen Day in the last group each day if they wanted.
David Lott

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: 2010 Open Championship
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2010, 05:51:40 PM »
So they could put Glen Day in the last group each day if they wanted.
No you get two different times, say at 6.30 then perhaps a 11.00, every group should get a late and an early
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
www.theplayersgolfclub.com