[Garland Bayley]

Sebonack would be great. I'd love to see that course on TV..

If they can hold it at Shinny, then why not NGLA? Too easy?

Just watch the 2014 Women's Open. You'll get to see it. Don't have to wait until 2018.

[Bill Brightly]

What about Ridgewood? NYC Metro area, classic Tilly course, easy access to lots of parking, plenty of room for tents on 27 hole site, and the USGA can study how the course holds up to another Barclays event this summer.

[Gene Greco]

I'd love to hear the reasoning behind the folks who think it should be at Sebonack suggesting why that would be appropriate.

I've been a walking scorer at 6 US Opens and have played Sebonack several times and thought that it could hold the Open tomorrow. The only other course in that category is Oakmont.

I offer another course which could hold an Open tomorrow:

Oak Hill

[Matt_Ward]

Bill:

Ridgewood is a wonderful layout but it had all it can handle with The Barclays and that didn't include Tiger and the mega press and other logitical elements involved. Need I also remind you that traffic on Rte 17 and nearby Rte 4 is always a mess WITHOUT a major championship being played.

If any layout gets the 2018 event it will be a NY-based one.

[Jay Flemma]

yeah, the scuttlebutt here at Pebble is NYC area...but happily the talk is Winged Foot and Shinny, not Bethpage.  Pete, we think alike, I love  the idea of Riviera, but I think it'd be too easy.

They ought to return to Oakland Hills!!!

[Jeff Evagues]

Newsday this morning (sorry can't provide a link) was hinting the USGA really wants SH and also that Bethpage was not on the short list.

[Sean Leary]

If any layout gets the 2018 event it will be a NY-based one.

Do you think they might skip the US Open that year, for the 100th year anniversary for not holding it due to WW1? 

[Peter Ferlicca]

Lawsonia...you heard it here first!!!   

I HIGHLY doubt they would go back to Wisconsin for another US Open, considering it will be at Erin Hills in 2017.


I am guessing it will be at Sebonack, with the recent trend of the USGA awarding either US Amatuers or Womens US opens to a new course, a US open usually follows.

[Jeff_Lewis]

I'd love to hear the reasoning behind the folks who think it should be at Sebonack suggesting why that would be appropriate.

I've been a walking scorer at 6 US Opens and have played Sebonack several times and thought that it could hold the Open tomorrow. The only other course in that category is Oakmont.

I am happy you have been on site at US Opens. But what architecturally about Sebonack tells you it should hold a National Open?

[John Moore II]

I'd love to hear the reasoning behind the folks who think it should be at Sebonack suggesting why that would be appropriate.

I've been a walking scorer at 6 US Opens and have played Sebonack several times and thought that it could hold the Open tomorrow. The only other course in that category is Oakmont.

I am happy you have been on site at US Opens. But what architecturally about Sebonack tells you it should hold a National Open?

What did Torrey Pines have architecturally that allowed it to host a National Open??  US Opens are not about architecture as they are having a place able to handle the huge crowds and massive tent villages that go with the event. That is why they bring it to Pinehurst like they do now. Great golf course, to be sure, but a huge driving range to put the corporate tents, they use the 1st tees on course 3 and 5 for the 'pro' range, and have parking all over the other golf courses and the horse tracks behind course #1. They will probably end up using the 1st, 17th and 18th holes on #1 and maybe hole #1 on course #4 as part of the village this coming time. Oh, and they have a parking lot that will fit probably 500 cars for the players, families and officials. Torrey had all those facilities. That is why they got the Open. Architecture is second (or lower) to the need for space to handle logictics.

[Mac Plumart]

Old MacDonald...you heard it here first!   

[Scott Weersing]

I'd love to hear the reasoning behind the folks who think it should be at Sebonack suggesting why that would be appropriate.

I've been a walking scorer at 6 US Opens and have played Sebonack several times and thought that it could hold the Open tomorrow. The only other course in that category is Oakmont.

I am happy you have been on site at US Opens. But what architecturally about Sebonack tells you it should hold a National Open?

What did Torrey Pines have architecturally that allowed it to host a National Open??  US Opens are not about architecture as they are having a place able to handle the huge crowds and massive tent villages that go with the event. That is why they bring it to Pinehurst like they do now. Great golf course, to be sure, but a huge driving range to put the corporate tents, they use the 1st tees on course 3 and 5 for the 'pro' range, and have parking all over the other golf courses and the horse tracks behind course #1. They will probably end up using the 1st, 17th and 18th holes on #1 and maybe hole #1 on course #4 as part of the village this coming time. Oh, and they have a parking lot that will fit probably 500 cars for the players, families and officials. Torrey had all those facilities. That is why they got the Open. Architecture is second (or lower) to the need for space to handle logictics.

I would agree with John that the USGA may like GCA but logistics are more important than design. They look for both logistics and challenge,  but I think they will take a view of the water over good design (ie, Torrey Pines).

So if they go back to the east coast, which one would you choose, Bethpage, Shinnecock, Winged Foot, or Sebonack?

I would like to see them go back to Shinnecock because the course would not be impacted by rain as much as Bethpage and Winged Foot.
As to Sebonack, the USGA has never chosen a new private course to host the US Open. And I don't think they would change for Sebonack or for D. Trump.

[Phil_the_Author]

Scott,

You will probably have a hard time believing this, but Bethpage is LESS impacted by weather than Shinnecock. It drains FAR better than any and all of the courses you mentioned because of its sandy base. That is why it was even remotely playable in 2009  after an entire MONTH of daily rains. It is that aspect that gets forgotten. In addition, heavy winds, as can happen also at Pebble and plagued the 2000 Open there can also affect Shinnecock and Sebonack.

Each venue has its own particular set of strengths and drawbacks; ALL are Open worthy and would make good choices... In fact, that is the problem with the idea of having a "rotation" of venues. Our country has far too many deserving courses, old and new, capable of and willing to host the national championship...

[Sean Leary]

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As to Sebonack, the USGA has never chosen a new private course to host the US Open.

Other than Bellerive, Hazeltine and Atlanta Athletic club, you mean.

These top tier older private clubs want it once every 10-20 years at the most. Any talk about a Shinnecock not getting an open is because they didn't want it.

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