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Kyle Henderson

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Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« on: June 03, 2010, 02:11:05 AM »
I'm eager to taste some of Mr. Clayton's works next Feb-March and curious to see what sort of influence Geoff might have in future projects.

Are you out there, Sir Clayton? Care to comment?
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Mark_F

Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 04:42:44 AM »
I'm eager to taste some of Mr. Clayton's works next Feb-March and curious to see what sort of influence Geoff might have in future projects.

I'm guessing they won't be designing parkland courses.

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 10:43:11 AM »
Kyle.

I think it will be interesting.Geoff has a terrific eye and understanding of what makes a good hole and a good course.
Obviously he will still be playing a lot but when he winds down it will hopefully be a business he can really devote a lot of time and passion to.

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 11:35:20 AM »
Kyle.

I think it will be interesting.Geoff has a terrific eye and understanding of what makes a good hole and a good course.
Obviously he will still be playing a lot but when he winds down it will hopefully be a business he can really devote a lot of time and passion to.


Congratulations on the partnership Mike.
He seems an authentic guy.

Why wouldn't he wait until he winds down and then do what Mr. Burke did?
Start a club and share his love of the game with the people?
He can help design that course.

Cheers
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Scott Warren

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 12:23:40 PM »
Debut Clayton/Ogilvy design perhaps the third course at Bridport?

Tim Liddy

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 12:27:18 PM »
Congratulations Michael. Ogilvy is always the best quote on tour. It will be a great team.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2010, 12:38:13 PM by Tim Liddy »

Chris Kane

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 07:07:03 PM »
Debut Clayton/Ogilvy design perhaps the third course at Bridport?

Is there even a site for a third course there?

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 08:05:19 PM »
Good luck with the partnership Mike

Scott Warren

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 10:42:53 PM »
Debut Clayton/Ogilvy design perhaps the third course at Bridport?

Is there even a site for a third course there?

Matt Mollica seems to think so, and has even suggested it will be built within five years.

Ian Andrew

Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 09:32:53 AM »
This sounds like a great fit since they both share the same views on architecture.

Good luck Mike.

Ian

Anthony Butler

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 11:37:53 AM »
This sounds like a great fit since they both share the same views on architecture.

Good luck Mike.

Ian

You'd need to work on your chipping and pitching game before taking on Clayton/Ogilvy course.
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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 02:14:25 PM »
Ian,Mike,Tim.Kevin

Thanks for the kind thoughts - it will be fun and as I said - interesting.
Mike,

I like that Burke idea - that concept has never been done in Australia and at the right site it could be both feasible and fantastic.
Perhaps a part of the problem is that people try to make money out of the game - and won't stay in long enough to establish something truly great.
Barnbougle is one of the best golf businesses in Australia - and profit was never the motive to build the course.it was always going to have to pay for itself though.
And - there is room for a third course - and a fourth even!

Garland Bayley

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 02:25:01 PM »
Now what we need to do is have Charlie G make a hypothetical topo, and have Ian and Mike, and Geoff and Mike submit designs for all us armchairs to nitpick.
;)
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 04:27:07 PM »
Thank you Mike - Good luck.

Garland -
Can I be the judge?
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George Pazin

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 04:29:04 PM »
Barnbougle is one of the best golf businesses in Australia - and profit was never the motive to build the course.it was always going to have to pay for itself though.
And - there is room for a third course - and a fourth even!

Most encouraging post I've seen on here in a long time. Best of luck to you and Geoff, Mike.
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Richard Chamberlain

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2010, 06:40:55 PM »
Mike

Can I assume you still have Mike Cocking and Ash Meade on board ?

Thomas McQuillan

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2010, 07:05:05 PM »
This sounds like a great fit since they both share the same views on architecture.

Good luck Mike.

Ian

You'd need to work on your chipping and pitching game before taking on Clayton/Ogilvy course.

Or you could just hit 18 greens in regulation

Bill_McBride

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2010, 07:35:11 PM »
Ian,Mike,Tim.Kevin

Thanks for the kind thoughts - it will be fun and as I said - interesting.
Mike,

I like that Burke idea - that concept has never been done in Australia and at the right site it could be both feasible and fantastic.
Perhaps a part of the problem is that people try to make money out of the game - and won't stay in long enough to establish something truly great.
Barnbougle is one of the best golf businesses in Australia - and profit was never the motive to build the course.it was always going to have to pay for itself though.
And - there is room for a third course - and a fourth even!

Apparently Mr. Burke is still at Champions every day, and Arnold Palmer still hangs at Bay Hill on a regular basis.  It's a great model.

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2010, 11:40:12 PM »
Rich,

Mike and Ashley are involved - two really talented guys.It's the old story of others getting the credit - or the blame! - when those who do a lot of the work go unrecognised.

Joel_Stewart

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2010, 10:32:24 AM »
Kyle.

I think it will be interesting.Geoff has a terrific eye and understanding of what makes a good hole and a good course.
Obviously he will still be playing a lot but when he winds down it will hopefully be a business he can really devote a lot of time and passion to.


Mike:

Are you looking to expand outside Austrailia?  Maybe my real question is where do you see th partnership going in the next 5 years, Asia or maybe a job in the United States.  Since Ogilvy lives in Arizona, maybe a desert course?

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2010, 12:06:47 PM »
Joel,

I think the reality of the design business is that you have to look at Asia - China especially where there are going to be more courses built than anywhere else.
Of course it would be nice to just work in Australia and America but that is for the fortunate few - and someday we would like to be amongst the fortunate few - but that takes lots of good work and some luck.
Not a whole lot different from playing really.

Pat Burke

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2010, 08:38:32 PM »
Clayts,
Good news!  Congratulations.
Hope this will open a door or two over here!  Would love to see you get
the opportunity

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2010, 01:23:47 AM »
Pat,

Thanks mate. I will be sure to let you know next time I am over.Geoff has just moived to San Diego so maybe soon.
It would be good to catch up.

Mark_F

Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2010, 01:52:16 AM »
Geoff has just moived to San Diego.

Surprised it has taken him so long.

I would imagine there aren't many good waves in Arizona.

Anthony Butler

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Re: Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Clayton form Design Partnership
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2010, 12:49:10 PM »
Whatever the output is, I hope it's more predictable than Geoff's game recently.

His 65 in the first round of Memorial looked about as routine as 7 under can look. The next day an inexplicable 77. And then a 69 on Saturday like the previous two days never happened.

Every time I follow him on the course, you can't see how he'd ever go higher than 70. It's maddening to say the least...!
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