Nassau 1924

[Tom MacWood]

This map of Nassau CC (posted by Joe B) shows Herbert Strong's redesign of the golf course. Although the course is fairly well bunkered today it is nothing like the bold and spectacular Strong redesign. What happened, and is there any thought of restoring the course?

[TEPaul]

"Although the course is fairly well bunkered today it is nothing like the bold and spectacular Strong redesign. What happened, and is there any thought of restoring the course?"



Tom MacWood:

If you have an interest in the architectural history and evolution of Nassau CC why don't you try something different this time and just get in touch with them yourself, explain to them your interest in golf architectural history, in the architectural history of their course and try to establish a working relationship with them? Here's their telephone #---516-676-0664. Maybe then you can report back to all of us on your interest in their club and their course and what their thoughts are on restoring their course to more of Strong's bold and spectacular bunkering or whatever.

Failing that, I will be right in the neighborhood tomorrow and the next day at The Creek Club. Would you like me to go over to the Nassau CC and ask them that question for you? Perhaps they may even show me some of their historical records but the next question is will you accuse me of altering and doctoring them too as you have with Merion et al?  

[Robert Emmons]

From the recent redesign work they have done the last few years, I don't believe they are interested in a restoration...RHE

[Tom MacWood]

From the recent redesign work they have done the last few years, I don't believe they are interested in a restoration...RHE

Robert
I didn't realize they'd recently redesigned. I wonder if they were aware of what they had.

Here is the 17th circa 1920, which I believe is prior to Strong's remodeling.

[Joe Bausch]

Here is the text that goes with that 1924 drawing above.  I think the layout before Strong's work can sort of be pieced together from the description.

(click on the diagrams to expand them for easier reading if your browser doesn't automatically do so!)

[Robert Emmons]

Tom,

That is today's 8th...11,12, and 13 on your map have all been reworked completely...RHE

[Kirk Gill]

Would there be any interest in restoring the "congenial links" as they existed before Strong's work there?

[Tom MacWood]

Joe
That is great article thanks for sharing it. I'd always wondered how extensive Strong's redesign work was at Nassau (and the exact nature of it), and it appears it was quite extensive.

[Keith OHalloran]

I do not want to start another attribution discussion, however, with all the changes that Strong made at Nassau, and the recent changes made there, when do you have to stop giving Emmett design credit at Nassau?

[Tom MacWood]

Based on the current configuration I wouldn't stop giving him credit.

[Keith OHalloran]

That is what I am wondering Tom, what about the current configuration make you say that? It seems like Strong changed a ton of the course including greens and routing. The article posted seems to have the current 8th as the 17th, so it also appears that the nines have been swithced since the article, and in the last ten years, they have changed the third and fourth from 2 par fours to a par three and a five. In addition, the par three fifth has been  been attributed to Raynor. I am just trying to put all this information together to get a feel for what Emmet is left there.

[Tom MacWood]

The nines being switched is not a big deal. The article only mentions a handful of changes to the routing. I wasn't aware of the modern changes, but I reckon close to 50% or more of the holes are from Emmet's original routing. There is a lot of good info in that article, with the info you have about the recent changes it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out what is left of Emmet.

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